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Pro Bowlers denoted with an *
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb
John Beck
Drew Stanton
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
EJ Manual
Geno Smith*Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Vince Young*Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler*Kellen Clemens
Tarvaris Jackson
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Kenny Pickett
Matt Stafford*Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Kyler Murray*Daniel Jones
Dwayne Haskins
Drew Lock
Chad Pennington
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater*Derek Carr*Jimmy G
Trevor Lawrence*Zach Wilson
Justin Fields
Mac Jones*
Kyle Trask
Jared Goff*Carson Wentz*Paxton Lynch
Christian Hackenburg
Cam Newton*Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton*Colin Kaepernick
Matt Ryan*
Joe FlaccoBrian Brohm
Chad Henne
Carson Palmer*Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
Mike Vick*Drew Brees*Quincy Carter
Marquis Tuiasosopo
Andrew Luck*RG3*Ryan Tannehill*Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiller
Alex Smith*Aaron Rodgers*Jason Campbell
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen*
Josh Rosen
Lamar Jackson*Mitch Trubisky*Pat Mahomes*Deshaun Watson*DeShone Kizer
Joe Burrow*Tua
Justin Herbert*
Jordan Love
Eli Manning*Phillip Rivers*Big Ben*J.P. Losman
Bryce Young
CJ Stroud
Anthony Richardson
91 QBs, 7 Super Bowl champs (as a starter), 31 Pro Bowlers. Every one of them drafted with the expectation of being the QBOTF.
Not so easy to find a franchise guy. Not saying they can’t, but the odds aren’t in the Vikings favor.
Yeah, every year the talking heads / press fluffs these guys. Most really need a couple years holding a clipboard first, but all to many thrown to the wolves immediately.
Looks more and more like there are 3 guys and throw a dart for the rest. That will leave the Vikings throwing darts for a QBOTF.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Looks more and more like there are 3 guys and throw a dart for the rest. That will leave the Vikings throwing darts for a QBOTF.
I think McCarthy would be worth taking a swing at based on age and upside, otherwise we are looking at Cousins or Russell Wilson on a short term deal and probably taking another swing on another mid round QB. It's just the situation we paint ourselves into every season. Unfortunate
Quote: @CFIAvike said:
Pro Bowlers denoted with an *
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb
John Beck
Drew Stanton
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
EJ Manual
Geno Smith*Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Vince Young*Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler*Kellen Clemens
Tarvaris Jackson
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Kenny Pickett
Matt Stafford*Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Pat White
Kyler Murray*Daniel Jones
Dwayne Haskins
Drew Lock
Chad Pennington
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater*Derek Carr*Jimmy G
Trevor Lawrence*Zach Wilson
Justin Fields
Mac Jones*
Kyle Trask
Jared Goff*Carson Wentz*Paxton Lynch
Christian Hackenburg
Cam Newton*Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton*Colin Kaepernick
Matt Ryan*
Joe FlaccoBrian Brohm
Chad Henne
Carson Palmer*Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
Mike Vick*Drew Brees*Quincy Carter
Marquis Tuiasosopo
Andrew Luck*RG3*Ryan Tannehill*Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiller
Alex Smith*Aaron Rodgers*Jason Campbell
Baker Mayfield
Sam Darnold
Josh Allen*
Josh Rosen
Lamar Jackson*Mitch Trubisky*Pat Mahomes*Deshaun Watson*DeShone Kizer
Joe Burrow*Tua
Justin Herbert*
Jordan Love
Eli Manning*Phillip Rivers*Big Ben*J.P. Losman
Bryce Young
CJ Stroud
Anthony Richardson
91 QBs, 7 Super Bowl champs (as a starter), 31 Pro Bowlers. Every one of them drafted with the expectation of being the QBOTF.
Not so easy to find a franchise guy. Not saying they can’t, but the odds aren’t in the Vikings favor.
Pro Bowl is not meaningless, but when you see guys like Mac Jones and Mitch Trubisky and Vince Young with stars it reminds you just how often even QB busts can look good early and it really doesn't mean much. There are over 50 flat busts on this list.
I think the analysis should be limited to the past decade because college football has changed a lot since 2000 and the QB coaching at the college level has greatly improved. Think of Ponder, there are probably six or eight better prospects in this class alone. You have much better data on college QBs now -- more passing snaps in more pro offenses.
This is what I would like to happen. Vikes pick best defensive player, sign Cousins for two years and then trade their second to move up to #31-32 overall to take McCarthy (like they did with Bridgewater).
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
This is what I would like to happen. Vikes pick best defensive player, sign Cousins for two years and then trade their second to move up to #31-32 overall to take McCarthy (like they did with Bridgewater).
IMO, this is very much an option for the Vikings. I said as much in another thread.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
I think the analysis should be limited to the past decade because college football has changed a lot since 2000 and the QB coaching at the college level has greatly improved. Think of Ponder, there are probably six or eight better prospects in this class alone. You have much better data on college QBs now -- more passing snaps in more pro offenses.
This is what I would like to happen. Vikes pick best defensive player, sign Cousins for two years and then trade their second to move up to #31-32 overall to take McCarthy (like they did with Bridgewater).
I would luv that!
But in this QB hungry league, I dont think JJM will last till the end of the 1st. I think he will be viewed more favorably among GM's than a Levis too.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ VikingOracle said:
I think the analysis should be limited to the past decade because college football has changed a lot since 2000 and the QB coaching at the college level has greatly improved. Think of Ponder, there are probably six or eight better prospects in this class alone. You have much better data on college QBs now -- more passing snaps in more pro offenses.
This is what I would like to happen. Vikes pick best defensive player, sign Cousins for two years and then trade their second to move up to #31-32 overall to take McCarthy (like they did with Bridgewater).
I would luv that!
But in this QB hungry league, I dont think JJM will last till the end of the 1st. I think he will be viewed more favorably among GM's than a Levis too.
I think we're back to how these guys ranked early on, with Williams and Maye at the top, a wild card in Daniels, and then JJM, Penix, and Nix falling in the 20 to 50 range. So if it's not JJM, one of those QBs should be there at the end of the 1st.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
I think the analysis should be limited to the past decade because college football has changed a lot since 2000 and the QB coaching at the college level has greatly improved. Think of Ponder, there are probably six or eight better prospects in this class alone. You have much better data on college QBs now -- more passing snaps in more pro offenses.
This is what I would like to happen. Vikes pick best defensive player, sign Cousins for two years and then trade their second to move up to #31-32 overall to take McCarthy (like they did with Bridgewater).
Unfortunately, I think every other QB needy team has the same strategy. Kwesi wasn't able to move up to get Richardson despite a trade proposal that included a boat load of picks and Hunter per Brett Kollmann. If McCarthy has a good offseason leading up to the draft, he could easily move up to the 15-20 range. Michigan's offense didn't showcase the QB so we really don't know what he can do. I think a slight trade back for the Vikings and grabbing the best of the 2nd tier QB's is more realistic if we can't move up to get Daniels.
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