If the last 6 weeks doesn’t make you…

[CFIAvike]

Appreciate how good Kirk Cousins is, literally nothing will. 

[Guest]

Truth. And for some, nothing will. No matter what. Although its painfully obvious.

Going to be a very interesting offseason in Vikingland. Tie the purple wagon to Kirk Cousins for another 3 years (I don't think he'll sign for less than 3 years unfortunately) or cut the cord and go in a completely new direction. 

[Guest]

How many chances are you going to give him? There are better prospects on the horizon.

[Guest]

soon to be 36-year-old QB coming off a major surgery that has ended many careers or took over a year to get close to 90% = time to move on.

I'm not sure the market will be that great for him because of the above.  So if the market is just so/so then yes re4sign him otherwise time to start a new chapter - IMO

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@FLVike said:
How many chances are you going to give him? There are better prospects on the horizon.

What prospects are guaranteed to be better than Cousins in the short term? Because there are exactly 2 options…

1.  Run it back with Kirk and add to the pieces we have in place, while also keeping in mind the future of the QB position. 

2. Press the Red Button and completely blow it up to take a shot at drafting a QB that will start day 1. Odds are probably less than 35 percent we end up with a good/great NFL QB out of any draft we take one.  So unless we are incredibly lucky the first go around, we kiss any good  players currently on our team goodbye and sit on the never ending merry go round of QB doom until we find one.

Blue pill or Red Pill?

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Since 1990, the Vikings have drafted 4 QB’s in the first two rounds of the draft. Culpepper, Tarvaris Jackson,  Ponder, and Teddy. 

Exactly one of those QBs had a decent career, even though everyone hated him, bitched about his “small hands”, eluded to lack of intelligence, and wished Todd Bouman would replace him. 

Forgive me if I’m not enthusiastic about finding “the guy” at QB in the draft

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@CFIAvike said:

@FLVike said:
How many chances are you going to give him? There are better prospects on the horizon.

What prospects are guaranteed to be better than Cousins in the short term? Because there are exactly 2 options…

1.  Run it back with Kirk and add to the pieces we have in place, while also keeping in mind the future of the QB position. 

2. Press the Red Button and completely blow it up to take a shot at drafting a QB that will start day 1. Odds are probably less than 35 percent we end up with a good/great NFL QB out of any draft we take one.  So unless we are incredibly lucky the first go around, we kiss any good  players currently on our team goodbye and sit on the never ending merry go round of QB doom until we find one.

Blue pill or Red Pill?

Why is there only 2 options?


You could do both, resign Cousins to a short deal and draft
QBs until you find one that is better than him. 
You could bring in a guy like Baker Mayfield or Gardner Minshew and then
try and draft a better QB.  They’re a
step below Cousins, but they would probably keep us in that borderline playoff
category that we’ve been with Cousins while cleaning up the cap so we can reap
the benefits of that rookie QB deal.


That said, I still think it depends on Flores coming back
next year on how much you’re going to try and compress your window or plan for
a longer window.  If Flores is back for
2024, I think you almost have to resign Cousins and hope for the best.

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@CFIAvike said:
Since 1990, the Vikings have drafted 4 QB’s in the first two rounds of the draft. Culpepper, Tarvaris Jackson,  Ponder, and Teddy. 

Exactly one of those QBs had a decent career, even though everyone hated him, bitched about his “small hands”, eluded to lack of intelligence, and wished Todd Bouman would replace him. 

Forgive me if I’m not enthusiastic about finding “the guy” at QB in the draft

The Todd Bouman stuff is why I never take fans seriously when they start talking about who should be starting at QB. 

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Michael Penix

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@FLVike said:
Michael Penix

People complain about Kirk’s mobility, and you suggest the guy who has blown out his right knee TWICE by age 23.

He did look great against Texas, but 2 season ending ACL injuries and 2 season ending AC joint injuries is a lot to consider when you wanna just hand over the keys to a rookie.