Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
Agree, My stated concern was size and health and with that did not crap on the pick at all. I was thinking Levis the whole time but when we passed with inside info then I was/am all good.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
So you have no concerns about his durability and lack of size yet? Let him take a couple months of hits that come from a larger role in O and see if he is still as sharp? Do you not see him getting stood up at the LOS at times and not being able to get into his route on time for certain throws to be successful?
Hes a rookie, gonna shine and gonna have learning moments, but if you are convinced of his greatness then go ahead and book your tickets to canton for his enshrinement in 15 years. I'm not saying he won't be good, but his concerns are not erased 7 games into his rookie year with only 1 game of high production.
He's an inch taller the Tyreek Hill and only 10 pounds lighter. He'll put muscle on these first couple years.
go look at both of their frames and tell me they are about the same. Addison looks like he could get sent to the IR by a stiff breeze, Hill looks like an MMA fighter. I have never said he would bust, simply questioned a frame like that being able to stay healthy in the league, and questioning him being strong enough to be a full time WR in terms of run support and getting off press coverages. He may be great, but 1 big game doesnt alleviate those concerns just yet.
As so many have eluded to, it wasnt necessarily the talent, it was a durability concern, and also all the holes on defense. Turned out good so far - Flores has dialed up the defense.
big winners against the 9ers was KC, OL, and the defense. first “complete” game of the season
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
As so many have eluded to, it wasnt necessarily the talent, it was a durability concern, and also all the holes on defense. Turned out good so far - Flores has dialed up the defense.
big winners against the 9ers was KC, OL, and the defense. first “complete” game of the season
So....I'm just going to add this and not name names: it was more than just the durability. Some posters went off on how horrible it was for a variety of reasons and then made a big assumption when he was hurt in training camp that he was always going to be hurt. Others tried to point out his talent, that JJ was also hurt his rookie year and then was a machine, etc. Nope. KAM sucks and that was all they wanted to hear.
So just keep this in mind when I bring up Addison: I'm the dumbshit that SERIOUSLY doubted Jefferson was going to be a good pro. I thought he wasn't explosive, lacked speed, etc. So I'm not in the glass house casting stones, I've been wrong plenty.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
Ah, I missed you wanted us all to witness your self-congratulatory back pat. Congratulations on Addison's long storied career taking place last night. Geesus, he's a nice player by all accounts, but Jimmy's concerns are totally valid.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
Ah, I missed you wanted us all to witness your self-congratulatory back pat. Congratulations on Addison's long storied career taking place last night. Geesus, he's a nice player by all accounts, but Jimmy's concerns are totally valid.
Sorry, I barely recognized you outside your nutjob zealot political posts. So you watch football?? Who knew! Can you provide any links to prove it?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
So you have no concerns about his durability and lack of size yet? Let him take a couple months of hits that come from a larger role in O and see if he is still as sharp? Do you not see him getting stood up at the LOS at times and not being able to get into his route on time for certain throws to be successful?
Hes a rookie, gonna shine and gonna have learning moments, but if you are convinced of his greatness then go ahead and book your tickets to canton for his enshrinement in 15 years. I'm not saying he won't be good, but his concerns are not erased 7 games into his rookie year with only 1 game of high production.
He's an inch taller the Tyreek Hill and only 10 pounds lighter. He'll put muscle on these first couple years.
go look at both of their frames and tell me they are about the same. Addison looks like he could get sent to the IR by a stiff breeze, Hill looks like an MMA fighter. I have never said he would bust, simply questioned a frame like that being able to stay healthy in the league, and questioning him being strong enough to be a full time WR in terms of run support and getting off press coverages. He may be great, but 1 big game doesnt alleviate those concerns just yet.
1 big game? He has 6 TDs on the year. That's double the next rookie WR. It's also 2nd in the NFL behind only Tyreek Hill. It ties the Vikings record for most TDs by a rookie in his first 7 games. The other is some guy named Randy. In fact, in the last 40 years, only 4 rookies have had 400+ yards and 6+ TDs in their first 7 games. Two are Vikings. Justin Jefferson is not one of them.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
So you have no concerns about his durability and lack of size yet? Let him take a couple months of hits that come from a larger role in O and see if he is still as sharp? Do you not see him getting stood up at the LOS at times and not being able to get into his route on time for certain throws to be successful?
Hes a rookie, gonna shine and gonna have learning moments, but if you are convinced of his greatness then go ahead and book your tickets to canton for his enshrinement in 15 years. I'm not saying he won't be good, but his concerns are not erased 7 games into his rookie year with only 1 game of high production.
He's an inch taller the Tyreek Hill and only 10 pounds lighter. He'll put muscle on these first couple years.
go look at both of their frames and tell me they are about the same. Addison looks like he could get sent to the IR by a stiff breeze, Hill looks like an MMA fighter. I have never said he would bust, simply questioned a frame like that being able to stay healthy in the league, and questioning him being strong enough to be a full time WR in terms of run support and getting off press coverages. He may be great, but 1 big game doesnt alleviate those concerns just yet.
1 big game? He has 6 TDs on the year. That's double the next rookie WR. It's also 2nd in the NFL behind only Tyreek Hill. It ties the Vikings record for most TDs by a rookie in his first 7 games. The other is some guy named Randy. In fact, in the last 40 years, only 4 receivers have had 400+ yards and 6+ TDs in their first 7 games. Two are Vikings. Justin Jefferson is not one of them.
Oh, MB! He sucks! Can't you see how thin he is? We'll judge him in 4 years, not one day before dammit. Oh wait, we did judge him already in TC when he got hurt......
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
As so many have eluded to, it wasnt necessarily the talent, it was a durability concern, and also all the holes on defense. Turned out good so far - Flores has dialed up the defense.
big winners against the 9ers was KC, OL, and the defense. first “complete” game of the season
So....I'm just going to add this and not name names: it was more than just the durability. Some posters went off on how horrible it was for a variety of reasons and then made a big assumption when he was hurt in training camp that he was always going to be hurt. Others tried to point out his talent, that JJ was also hurt his rookie year and then was a machine, etc. Nope. KAM sucks and that was all they wanted to hear.
So just keep this in mind when I bring up Addison: I'm the dumbshit that SERIOUSLY doubted Jefferson was going to be a good pro. I thought he wasn't explosive, lacked speed, etc. So I'm not in the glass house casting stones, I've been wrong plenty.
What impressed me about Addison last night was the competitiveness, the fire. The D stole that first INT from him and he came back and ripped the TD out of the arms of the same defender. Sort of threw the guy to the ground and strolled a few yards for the TD.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
I dont think the doubts were about his game, but more his ability to stay healthy, I would like to see him play a bigger role for a few more games before I would erase those concerns, he has shown that he has trouble getting off jams at the LOS due to his smaller stature, but that can be alleviated with motion and not being on the LOS at the snap.
lol, of course you would. Easier than admitting you were wrong.
So you have no concerns about his durability and lack of size yet? Let him take a couple months of hits that come from a larger role in O and see if he is still as sharp? Do you not see him getting stood up at the LOS at times and not being able to get into his route on time for certain throws to be successful?
Hes a rookie, gonna shine and gonna have learning moments, but if you are convinced of his greatness then go ahead and book your tickets to canton for his enshrinement in 15 years. I'm not saying he won't be good, but his concerns are not erased 7 games into his rookie year with only 1 game of high production.
He's an inch taller the Tyreek Hill and only 10 pounds lighter. He'll put muscle on these first couple years.
go look at both of their frames and tell me they are about the same. Addison looks like he could get sent to the IR by a stiff breeze, Hill looks like an MMA fighter. I have never said he would bust, simply questioned a frame like that being able to stay healthy in the league, and questioning him being strong enough to be a full time WR in terms of run support and getting off press coverages. He may be great, but 1 big game doesnt alleviate those concerns just yet.
1 big game? He has 6 TDs on the year. That's double the next rookie WR. It's also 2nd in the NFL behind only Tyreek Hill. It ties the Vikings record for most TDs by a rookie in his first 7 games. The other is some guy named Randy. In fact, in the last 40 years, only 4 rookies have had 400+ yards and 6+ TDs in their first 7 games. Two are Vikings. Justin Jefferson is not one of them.
Yah, to take his ytd performance for granted or overlook it all together would be a big mistake. This is really amazing what we have witnessed through 7 games on in a career.
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