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You want to talk DeSantis?
#71
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@Waterboy said:
@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

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I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 
I haven’t voted for an incumbent in more than 20 years, all the way from dog catcher to President. I will vote for Biden if its Biden vs Trump. Thats how much I despise the man. 
To be frankly honest, arguing that Biden might launch the nukes isn’t a strong argument. He’s been in .gov for 50 years give or take a decade and he hasn’t launched them yet. So unless you’re worried he’ll trip and accidentally hit the launch button…I’m pretty sure we’ll be just fine. 


Cmon, at least be in the ballpark.  A senator can't launch a nuke. The nuke clock has moved forward significantly under Biden.  He's senile.  Yes, it's a concern.  If you vote for Biden versus Trump, it just speaks to the nonsense that people are absorbing from the barrage of the media.  Joe is more crooked than Trump ever was, and Trump at least has a clue how to make the country more affluent.  He's also not a puppet.

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#72
Quote: @Skodin said:
@Waterboy said:
@purplefaithful said:
I read an OpEd on DeSantis and it struck a bit of a nerve for me...

Ron spent 75 full minutes talking policy on the campaign launch with that turd Musk.

I didnt agree with everything of course, but he's smart and can obviously problem solve, maybe even build consensus.  I dont think he'll build consensus across the aisle, but he brings more brains to it than I would credit Trump or Pence with. 

If he's ever going to be POTUS, he'll have to persuade voters like me to vote for him. Someone who will vote, someone who didnt want to vote for Biden then but did, someone who doesnt want to vote for Biden again, but will do exactly that if the alternate is Trump or Pence. 

The Don is an entertainer and master politician. I think thats why his base literally loves him so much. Hell, I loved The Don on The Apprentice myself back in the day. 

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I understand not liking Trump. Voting for someone as incompetent as Biden because you dont like Trump makes absolutely no sense.  Biden has the power to start a nuclear war and people are worried about semantics. Truly sad situation 
That's not how nuclear wars start.
Brilliant!!!  What the hell are you even talking about?  I think the likelihood of a nuclear war increases when a president makes statements that they instantly have to change through their spokesperson.  I think the likelihood of a nuclear war increases when a country gets involved in a conflict where there is no goal.  I think a nuclear war starts when country's perceive that they can outwit the leadership of their adversary.  I think the likelihood of nuclear war increases when the leader of your govt is a figurehead only.  All of those conditions are true now.

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#73
Quote: @Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.
If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.
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#74
Going to be some very interesting days and months ahead as more Biden family crap comes out.
 Will his own party use the 25th Amendment against him? Where is my popcorn? So many here with zero clue of the shitstorm coming. Good luck folks. Buckle up.
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#75
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.
If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.
I think Trumplestilskin swooning, repeatedly, over a filthy mass murderer is a reminder that he's a s**t person.
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#76
Quote: @Zanary said:
OK, folks, seriously:

The complete dumpster fires that are the GOP and DNC have us, through their combined efforts, over $30 trillion in debt, the country (tragically, foolishly, needlessly) divided into a "us vs. them" moron-a-thon that simply leads to MORE debt, MORE division, and...oh, yeah, the losing side absolutely insisting that anything but their victory was absolute crime/cheating since at least 2000.

I forgot the bonus: people like myself, who won't support either treason club, being told by the whiners in the losing collective each time that it was OUR fault that their divisive personality cultist lost.  That's fuggin' inevitable.

Why is any functional person still supporting either camp, and why would they object to more choices, more parties, when we're talking about a country of over 300 million people...most of which do NOT identify in either "major" traitor category?  How is that bad, or unreasonable?

Btw, to anyone with gluteus discomfort over the "treason" remarks...you're supporting two parties that have us in huge debt, are horrible at getting us into/out of wars, play our public against each other, marginalize the rights the country is based on, and frankly have been playing y'all for many generations.  The proof is very obvious, while it's likely uncomfortable.

Admitting the problem is the first step, folks.
The system has reduced many to voting for the lesser of the perceived evils. 

Sad, but I think it rings true. 
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#77
Quote: @Zanary said:
@Waterboy said:
@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.
If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.
I think Trumplestilskin swooning, repeatedly, over a filthy mass murderer is a reminder that he's a s**t person.
its a joke that people apply one standard to Trump and look the othee way on Joe.  shows the idiocy of the media and voters in general. 
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#78
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@Zanary said:
@Waterboy said:
@Zanary said:
At this point, Trumplestilskin's verbal fluffing of putin should be an absolute disqualifier, although it seems like he may have "derped" his way into actual legal trouble beyond his ability to bluster out of.

DeSantis doesn't seem to be much more than a headline-seeking reactionary who reportedly likes torture...I think we can do better.
If you think Putin fears Biden more than Trump, you're on another planet.
I think Trumplestilskin swooning, repeatedly, over a filthy mass murderer is a reminder that he's a s**t person.
its a joke that people apply one standard to Trump and look the othee way on Joe.  shows the idiocy of the media and voters in general. 
Oh, there's no double standard here, it's calling out a filthy s**tbag of a "man" for constantly heaping praise, over and over, on a murderous horror show of a person.  This isn't about the media, this isn't about any "Trumplestilskin vs Zombie Joe" or whatever...

...this is simply calling out a s****y, pathetic, attention whore of a person, for his completely voluntary decisions to heap praise on Russia's current head mass rape/murder enabler.  He chose to keep making that babble...him.

No spin, no double standards, just him doubling and tripling down on how brilliant Vlad is, even after he set on his murderous mission.

I know that the Donald, a spineless filthboi, never admits anything or takes responsibility for his actions/deeds...what makes me want to vomit is that the drones in his fan club spin excuses for him just as rabidly.
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#79
Quote: @Skodin said:

Yes, a distinguished member of our armed services (don't you side with the troops?) with more awards than extremists have brain cells, is not going to answer a bullshit question from the NYPost.  Well fuck take my vote GOP RIGHT NOW
Yeah, Admiral Kirby wore the US Navy uniform, and stood a post.  Much respect. 
Did you give Gen Michael Flynn that same deference, a few yrs back?  I checked.  You didn't. 

As to this episode, Kirby is a civilian (Head) for the NSC.  As such, the NSC oversees any foreign relations taken up by the FBI.  
"The NSC is chaired by the President. Its regular attendees are the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Energy, the Attorney General,"  << Attorney General is the head of the FBI.  
The FBI, it has now been learned in the last week, has an ACTIVE CRIMINAL ONGOING FILE/INVESTIGATION, with foreign actors...on Biden.
Who knows what's in it? (some of us have ideers)
Could be nothing....could be a little somethin somethin.  

Are you suggesting the civilian free press should not ask a question to the civilian head of the NSC, re: an active FBI criminal file, under his purview, as head of NSC?
And that civilian free presser/journalist CAN'T?SHOULDN'T answer the question....as he's a former decorated military member?  


BTW, the NYP broke the Hunter laptop story.  Dismissed by rubes at the time, misled by the MSM as "Russian Propaganda".  We've now had confirmed, the 
Hunter laptop, was real, & just as compromising as those of us, said it was. 

Also, Sen. John McCain (Maverick! Only GOP'er that mattered!)  called him (Kirby) an idiot.  Does that make you pause?  


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#80
Quote: @Skodin 
He's right, the GOP is a dying party of bad ideas.   When your platform is:

Telling people what they can read
What they can say
Who they can love
Where you can shop
When you get to start a family

You are not the party of freedom
OY. 

"Telling people what they can read"  
  Liberal HBO bans "Gone with the Wind"

"What they can say"
  Liberals speak woke

"Who they can love"
  Heterophobes

"Where you can shop"
  Gay lobby pushes to boycott certain States

"When you get to start a family"



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