A Weekend Mock to Pass the Time

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@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

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@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

What Ive read is they were blown away in their 1:1's with him. Not sure if that was at the Combine or they had him up to Eagan. If you couple that with his athleticism? That probably gave a # of the staff a bro crush of epic proportions. 

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@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

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@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

It just seems like a huge leap going from college level play where he showed glimpses of being special and expecting those glimpses to come to regular fruition in the NFL. Perhaps KOC is the difference-maker in this leap?

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

I think for Richardson, it's all about going to a team who can let him sit for two years. If he can get that kind of time to develop, I think you might have something special. But teams get super impatient, especially when you have a potential weapon like that sitting on the bench. 

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@MaroonBells said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

I think for Richardson, it's all about going to a team who can let him sit for two years. If he can get that kind of time to develop, I think you might have something special. But teams get super impatient, especially when you have a potential weapon like that sitting on the bench. 

Yup,

Sure as the sun sets in the west you can count on a team getting impatient.

I dont think Richardson is as ready as say Hurts was coming into the league. And it took Jalen some time to acclimate. 

Richardson could very well take 2 years to curate, not just one. 

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@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

I think for Richardson, it's all about going to a team who can let him sit for two years. If he can get that kind of time to develop, I think you might have something special. But teams get super impatient, especially when you have a potential weapon like that sitting on the bench. 

Yup,

Sure as the sun sets in the west you can count on a team getting impatient.

I dont think Richardson is as ready as say Hurts was coming into the league. And it took Jalen some time to acclimate. 

Richardson could very well take 2 years to curate, not just one. 

I think you're underselling the raw factor of his talent. If you watch 4-5 games he's much further along than people give him credit for. Hurts played many more games, so his question marks were a bit different. He isn't a two year project in my mind. He'd benefit from sitting without pressure for a full year if it worked out. But honestly if he goes to a team with a more immediate QB need I feel he could play pretty early. The aptitude is there to run an NFL offense. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:

@PurplePastor said:

@purplefaithful said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@supafreak84 said:
Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?

Impossible to know, but even since I wrote this mock I think the likelihood of moving up the board has increased. People are too caught up in the sheer number of picks. If they can add a rookie QB and get out of Kirk's deal over the next 2 years they'll be able to buy known commodities making the draft less important. 

My concern is they love Richardson, especially after they got him on some 1:1's. I think his bust factor is right up there with Stroud. The good news is he'll probably be a top 5 pick and too rich to move up from 23. 

That leaves maybe Levis or Hooker. And Hookers S2 score is right up there with my Labradors. 

I don't understand the love for Richardson outside of his athletic ability. If I just went by his stats, I'd wonder why there is any interest in him. I mean 53% completion rate in college? Granted, I haven't watched him. He apparently has the tools, but didn't really put it together at the college level. Am I missing something?

I think that's it. It's just his athletic ability. He's got a long way to go to be an NFL QB, but his measurables are ridiculous. I'm sure having a piece of clay like that has to appeal to a coach like KOC. 

Its not just his athletic ability, he ability to navigate the pocket is up there too. There are some flash plays in the pocket where he uses his twitch to step up and deliver and your draw drops. He has a ways to go but nobody can say he isn't a special talent. 

I think for Richardson, it's all about going to a team who can let him sit for two years. If he can get that kind of time to develop, I think you might have something special. But teams get super impatient, especially when you have a potential weapon like that sitting on the bench. 

Yup,

Sure as the sun sets in the west you can count on a team getting impatient.

I dont think Richardson is as ready as say Hurts was coming into the league. And it took Jalen some time to acclimate. 

Richardson could very well take 2 years to curate, not just one. 

I think you're underselling the raw factor of his talent. If you watch 4-5 games he's much further along than people give him credit for. Hurts played many more games, so his question marks were a bit different. He isn't a two year project in my mind. He'd benefit from sitting without pressure for a full year if it worked out. But honestly if he goes to a team with a more immediate QB need I feel he could play pretty early. The aptitude is there to run an NFL offense. 

Well, you're higher on the kid than me Geoff. But I am not a talent evaluator by any means.

It's fun to talk about, it would just be so unViking like to make a move up that high on a QB.

And what they'd have to do to get this guy? Would make the Bridgewater move look like a pea shooter vs a cannon.