Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?
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Geoff I know you mentioned a move into the top 10 for Richardson. That would be an all time swing of swings because of the price tag it would cost to move up and his bust potential. With the amount of holes we have left to fill on this roster and the few draft picks we have, it would take brass balls to do something like that knowing you won't be getting any immediate returns on your investment. How high are the Vikings on Richardson exactly?
A move like that isn't for this coming season and it would open up a lot of cap space for 25 through 28 which would cover up for the loss of draft picks by being bigger players in FA. I dont support that kind of move, but if they feel that strongly about a player then I won't be bitching right away either.
Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
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CJ stroud got a 18% on the cognitive test. Not sure if he’s used to others doing his homework or what happened. With the complexities of the NFL, that should concern people.
https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-3-qb-bryce-young-has-the-s2
That level of cognitive aptitude shows up in his decision making. He's the most accurate passer in this draft. But if I were to bet a mortgage payment on one of the top 5 QBs busting, my money's on Stroud.
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Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
Hard to know what the Vikings will do. And I guess that's a good thing.
Trading up would obviously be for a QB. It would also mean the Vikings are willing to sacrifice adding impactful talent to the '23 team (and perhaps beyond) in order to get the QBOTF on the roster while Cousins is still here.
If the Vikings trade down, it means they want to add impactful talent now for the purpose of contending in '23, they recognize the flexibility that having Cousins provides, and adding the QBOTF is not as important as improving the talent on the roster.
Best of both worlds? Trading down, getting picks, adding talent AND adding the QBOTF. Probably the hardest to actually achieve though.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ pattersaur said:
Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
Hard to know what the Vikings will do. And I guess that's a good thing.
Trading up would obviously be for a QB. It would also mean the Vikings are willing to sacrifice adding impactful talent to the '23 team (and perhaps beyond) in order to get the QBOTF on the roster while Cousins is still here.
If the Vikings trade down, it means they want to add impactful talent now for the purpose of contending in '23, they recognize the flexibility that having Cousins provides, and adding the QBOTF is not as important as improving the talent on the roster.
Best of both worlds? Trading down, getting picks, adding talent AND adding the QBOTF. Probably the hardest to actually achieve though.
It’s not that hard to figure out, I just told you what they’ll do  .
So far this offseason the Vikes have signed a few pieces but there’s been very few meaningful restructures or extensions. Couple that fact with growing rumblings of Cook and Z being gone and I think the Vikings are at the very least keeping their options open regarding the 2023 season heading into the draft. Which I’d say is smart. If the QBOTF doesn’t work out and we somehow wind up with a bunch of ready-to-start talent then okay lets move around some money and run it back. But to me their “Plan A” seems to be to get a QB and take a more longterm approach, based on the tea leaves. Or maybe I’m projecting? I guess we’ll all know soon.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ pattersaur said:
Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
Hard to know what the Vikings will do. And I guess that's a good thing.
Trading up would obviously be for a QB. It would also mean the Vikings are willing to sacrifice adding impactful talent to the '23 team (and perhaps beyond) in order to get the QBOTF on the roster while Cousins is still here.
If the Vikings trade down, it means they want to add impactful talent now for the purpose of contending in '23, they recognize the flexibility that having Cousins provides, and adding the QBOTF is not as important as improving the talent on the roster.
Best of both worlds? Trading down, getting picks, adding talent AND adding the QBOTF. Probably the hardest to actually achieve though.
Or maybe whats available for QB, at a spot they could actually reach, isnt appealing as a QBOTF, so they are stuck and have to either take a lesser QB at 23 or later,, or a different position all together and it has nothing to do with Cousins.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ pattersaur said:
Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
Hard to know what the Vikings will do. And I guess that's a good thing.
Trading up would obviously be for a QB. It would also mean the Vikings are willing to sacrifice adding impactful talent to the '23 team (and perhaps beyond) in order to get the QBOTF on the roster while Cousins is still here.
If the Vikings trade down, it means they want to add impactful talent now for the purpose of contending in '23, they recognize the flexibility that having Cousins provides, and adding the QBOTF is not as important as improving the talent on the roster.
Best of both worlds? Trading down, getting picks, adding talent AND adding the QBOTF. Probably the hardest to actually achieve though.
Or maybe whats available for QB, at a spot they could actually reach, isnt appealing as a QBOTF, so they are stuck and have to either take a lesser QB at 23 or later,, or a different position all together and it has nothing to do with Cousins.
I agree. I just hope they don't take a lessor QB at 23. If they have a QBOTF in mind, they need to go get him. If he isn't available they should wait until next year. The concept of taking what is left if your first choice is gone, is how we ended up with Ponder. If they want to take a flyer on a late round QB, that's fine. But if their first choice isn't attainable, trade down and build the team. Perhaps make some trades and accumulate draft capitol for next year as well.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ pattersaur said:
Update- In the "draft predictions" thread on reddit, 98% of fans are saying trade down. So we're for sure trading up.
Hard to know what the Vikings will do. And I guess that's a good thing.
Trading up would obviously be for a QB. It would also mean the Vikings are willing to sacrifice adding impactful talent to the '23 team (and perhaps beyond) in order to get the QBOTF on the roster while Cousins is still here.
If the Vikings trade down, it means they want to add impactful talent now for the purpose of contending in '23, they recognize the flexibility that having Cousins provides, and adding the QBOTF is not as important as improving the talent on the roster.
Best of both worlds? Trading down, getting picks, adding talent AND adding the QBOTF. Probably the hardest to actually achieve though.
Or maybe whats available for QB, at a spot they could actually reach, isnt appealing as a QBOTF, so they are stuck and have to either take a lesser QB at 23 or later,, or a different position all together and it has nothing to do with Cousins.
Every QB is a lesser QB to one degree or another.
Still on the Cousins to SF trade plan here.
This team needs picks, it needs cap room, it needs a shot a QB of the Future.
Cousins for Lance and SF's (2) 3rds gives us 4 picks in the top 100 and removes a $25M+ voided cap hit next year. Moving down in the first to either Seattle, Chicago, NYJ, Steelers would give us (2) 2nds
That gives us 5 picks in the first three rounds PLUS A POTENTIAL QB of the future.
If Lance turns out, you don't need a QB in the 1st round next year and give him a 5th year option. If he doesn't you have 5 players from the top 100 of the 23 draft, cap space, and the 2024 draft to grab a QB with probably a top 10 pick.
2024 has to be the focus with cap room, a potential boatload of 2nd (2 2nds & 3 3rds) and 3rd year players (Cine, Booth, Asomoah), and possible a QB of the future on the roster in Lance
If you don't think we are real Super Bowl contenders this year, you are going to rebuild the roster and make your mark, this is the way to do it
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