Hunter won't attend voluntary offseason program

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@Wetlander said:
How many times do we have to redo his deal to make him happy?  Danielle...  quit putting your signature on the dotted line if you're going to complain about it a year later.

This.  You can't be unhappy with every contract you sign.  As others have said, time to trade him and find people that will be on the field and fit the scheme.

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I would have been more surprised if he showed. 

Same. His contract should be about 4 times what it is. 

and so should his games played number...

Hunter is fully healthy and played 18 games last year. If you're going to factor in injuries from two and three years ago, hell, about half the players in the NFL (save Cousins) would be sent packing. Fit I can understand, but that's B-Flo's call. 

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At this point, if there is value for him move on. I'm over it 

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@Vikergirl said:
At this point, if there is value for him move on. I'm over it 

This ^^^

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@Wetlander said:
How many times do we have to redo his deal to make him happy?  Danielle...  quit putting your signature on the dotted line if you're going to complain about it a year later.

The only contract Hunter actually signed was the one 5 years ago, which is now ridiculously outdated. Everything we've done with his contract between then and now has been salary to bonus conversions that require neither his signature or his permission. 

So...Hunter signs a team-friendly deal and wants to revisit and ya'll mad cuz he was hurt a couple years ago. Cousins, who's never been hurt, wants market value and ya'll mad cuz he won't sign a team-friendly deal.  Ya'll just mad all damn the time. LOL. 

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It costs more to trade Hunter than it would to keep him.  It would be a cap negative transaction.  The teams would have to trade both for Hunter's value, and for extra $6M burden we would incur for trading him.  We'd be paying $19M to trade him instead of $13M to keep him.  It's probably more likely that we just extend him after the draft and if his market value is out of line with his 3-4 value, maybe open up to some offers or let him play out his contract.

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He's really good, has contract leverage that @medaille laid out, and plays on a defense that already has lots of holes and will be desperately bereft of playmakers without him. If we can somehow get great value then okay but 9 times outta 10 he's a guy we'd rather have in purple than not. I think KAM will ultimately give him a new deal.

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@MaroonBells said:

@Wetlander said:
How many times do we have to redo his deal to make him happy?  Danielle...  quit putting your signature on the dotted line if you're going to complain about it a year later.

The only contract Hunter actually signed was the one 5 years ago, which is now ridiculously outdated. Everything we've done with his contract between then and now has been salary to bonus conversions that require neither his signature or his permission. 

So...Hunter signs a team-friendly deal and wants to revisit and ya'll mad cuz he was hurt a couple years ago. Cousins, who's never been hurt, wants market value and ya'll mad cuz he won't sign a team-friendly deal.  Ya'll just mad all damn the time. LOL. 

We guaranteed money multiple times that wasn't guaranteed on his original deal.  All the while he missed most of two seasons of that five year deal and we could have cut him at any point and he would have had to play for what he got paid on the open market (which wouldn't have been much guaranteed coming off two major injuries).

The Vikings did right by him considering they didn't have to do anything with it.  Sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for a player when you sign a long-term deal, have a major injury two years in, and then start barking about getting paid more?  And keep making your contract an issue?

I'm all for players getting paid what they deserve, but Danielle can't be that tone deaf to expect the Vikings to fork over a 20+ mil per year deal when we didn't know if he was the same player from a couple years ago.

Maybe we pay him now, but I don't know if he's worth Watt or Bosa money. 

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What other leverage does he really have but to not show up for Voluntary Workouts? All part of the negotiating process. 

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@Wetlander said:

@MaroonBells said:

@Wetlander said:
How many times do we have to redo his deal to make him happy?  Danielle...  quit putting your signature on the dotted line if you're going to complain about it a year later.

The only contract Hunter actually signed was the one 5 years ago, which is now ridiculously outdated. Everything we've done with his contract between then and now has been salary to bonus conversions that require neither his signature or his permission. 

So...Hunter signs a team-friendly deal and wants to revisit and ya'll mad cuz he was hurt a couple years ago. Cousins, who's never been hurt, wants market value and ya'll mad cuz he won't sign a team-friendly deal.  Ya'll just mad all damn the time. LOL. 

We guaranteed money multiple times that wasn't guaranteed on his original deal.  All the while he missed most of two seasons of that five year deal and we could have cut him at any point and he would have had to play for what he got paid on the open market (which wouldn't have been much guaranteed coming off two major injuries).

The Vikings did right by him considering they didn't have to do anything with it.  Sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for a player when you sign a long-term deal, have a major injury two years in, and then start barking about getting paid more?  And keep making your contract an issue?

I'm all for players getting paid what they deserve, but Danielle can't be that tone deaf to expect the Vikings to fork over a 20+ mil per year deal when we didn't know if he was the same player from a couple years ago.

Maybe we pay him now, but I don't know if he's worth Watt or Bosa money. 

Well, now we do. If we're going to use injuries to gauge value, TJ Watt missed 7 games last year. He had 5.5 sacks and 13 pressures. Danielle Hunter missed 0 games, had 10.5 sacks and 34 pressures. Watt's base salary is $20M this year, Hunter's $4.9M. Watt's cap hit this year is $29M, Hunter's is $13M.