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Z wants out
#21
Quote: @Riphawkins said:
@jargomcfargo said:
@Riphawkins said:
Those with kids in their 20’s will recognize this. Rugrats was one of my favorite shows to watch with them. 
Smith: I want to be released

Angelica: And I want a pony. You can't always get what you want.
You learned it from the Rugrats. I learned it from the Rolling Stones!
It's a different age where nobody wants to honor the contract they signed. I hope they can come to some sort of compromise. But that's going to be difficult because of the salary cap. But I'm told the cap is a myth, so who knows?
What I learned from the Stones was, Sometimes you get what you need. Smith not being granted his release may be the best thing for him.

I just turned 60, so I know the Stones line well, it just wasn’t as funny as hearing Angelica say it. Lol

Contracts go both ways. Teams sign players fully aware of them not playing out that contract because it will cost to much in year 3 or 4. So, I don’t put this all on the players.

Agents however play that game. Sign a guy to a long term deal where payments escalate fully knowing they’ll never see then end of it. It makes the agent look good to his other and future clients. Eliminate that from the equation and players wouldn’t be upset about the deal they signed.
Well played sir!
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#22
Quote: @Riphawkins said:
@jargomcfargo said:
@Riphawkins said:
Those with kids in their 20’s will recognize this. Rugrats was one of my favorite shows to watch with them. 
Smith: I want to be released

Angelica: And I want a pony. You can't always get what you want.
You learned it from the Rugrats. I learned it from the Rolling Stones!
It's a different age where nobody wants to honor the contract they signed. I hope they can come to some sort of compromise. But that's going to be difficult because of the salary cap. But I'm told the cap is a myth, so who knows?
What I learned from the Stones was, Sometimes you get what you need. Smith not being granted his release may be the best thing for him.

I just turned 60, so I know the Stones line well, it just wasn’t as funny as hearing Angelica say it. Lol

Contracts go both ways. Teams sign players fully aware of them not playing out that contract because it will cost to much in year 3 or 4. So, I don’t put this all on the players.

Agents however play that game. Sign a guy to a long term deal where payments escalate fully knowing they’ll never see then end of it. It makes the agent look good to his other and future clients. Eliminate that from the equation and players wouldn’t be upset about the deal they signed.
all I learned from the Stones was if there is a red door,  I will likely want to paint it black.
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#23
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Riphawkins said:
@jargomcfargo said:
@Riphawkins said:
Those with kids in their 20’s will recognize this. Rugrats was one of my favorite shows to watch with them. 
Smith: I want to be released

Angelica: And I want a pony. You can't always get what you want.
You learned it from the Rugrats. I learned it from the Rolling Stones!
It's a different age where nobody wants to honor the contract they signed. I hope they can come to some sort of compromise. But that's going to be difficult because of the salary cap. But I'm told the cap is a myth, so who knows?
What I learned from the Stones was, Sometimes you get what you need. Smith not being granted his release may be the best thing for him.

I just turned 60, so I know the Stones line well, it just wasn’t as funny as hearing Angelica say it. Lol

Contracts go both ways. Teams sign players fully aware of them not playing out that contract because it will cost to much in year 3 or 4. So, I don’t put this all on the players.

Agents however play that game. Sign a guy to a long term deal where payments escalate fully knowing they’ll never see then end of it. It makes the agent look good to his other and future clients. Eliminate that from the equation and players wouldn’t be upset about the deal they signed.
all I learned from the Stones was if there is a red door,  I will likely want to paint it black.
And,

Some girls give me children, I never asked them for
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#24
Quote: @Riphawkins said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Riphawkins said:
@jargomcfargo said:
@Riphawkins said:
Those with kids in their 20’s will recognize this. Rugrats was one of my favorite shows to watch with them. 
Smith: I want to be released

Angelica: And I want a pony. You can't always get what you want.
You learned it from the Rugrats. I learned it from the Rolling Stones!
It's a different age where nobody wants to honor the contract they signed. I hope they can come to some sort of compromise. But that's going to be difficult because of the salary cap. But I'm told the cap is a myth, so who knows?
What I learned from the Stones was, Sometimes you get what you need. Smith not being granted his release may be the best thing for him.

I just turned 60, so I know the Stones line well, it just wasn’t as funny as hearing Angelica say it. Lol

Contracts go both ways. Teams sign players fully aware of them not playing out that contract because it will cost to much in year 3 or 4. So, I don’t put this all on the players.

Agents however play that game. Sign a guy to a long term deal where payments escalate fully knowing they’ll never see then end of it. It makes the agent look good to his other and future clients. Eliminate that from the equation and players wouldn’t be upset about the deal they signed.
all I learned from the Stones was if there is a red door,  I will likely want to paint it black.
And,

Some girls give me children, I never asked them for
And...

I've been around for a long, long years
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#25
I sit and watch as tears go by.

I don't know if that's the Stones or just every time I read this message board. :p :p
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#26
Quote: @comet52 said:
I sit and watch as tears go by.

I don't know if that's the Stones or just every time I read this message board. :p :p
Definitely the Stones and this board lol
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#27
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@supafreak84 said:
This seems like an easy solution considering he would save us 12 million in cap space and we still need to cut 16 million before the deadline. The question on him coming in was health. He started the season like a ball of fire, got hurt, and finished out the last two months of the season including the playoffs with a whopping half a sack. 31 years old, yeah if we can't trade him...cut him. I'm imagining the Vikings are publicly stating they aren't cutting him to not lose any leverage in trade discussions. 
The Vikings have already made the decisions necessary to get under the cap, and probably another $15-$20M below. They obviously did all this without expecting to touch Z's contract, so he's part of their plans for 2023. Will they budge? They probably should...

https://twitter.com/PurpleForTheWin/stat...82145?s=20
Z isn't anywhere in that stratosphere.
In terms of money, no. But he did have more sacks and more pressures than everyone on that list not named Myles Garrett. 
In terms of play as well.  As others have stated, he started the year like a lion and left like a lamb.  Hard to evaluate based on the _onatell D, but he signed a smaller contract because of health concerns.  Last year didn't change those concerns.
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#28


Cut me Mick…! Wink 
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#29
"The sound of strangers sending nothing to my mind"
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#30
Quote: @Riphawkins said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Riphawkins said:
@jargomcfargo said:
@Riphawkins said:
Those with kids in their 20’s will recognize this. Rugrats was one of my favorite shows to watch with them. 
Smith: I want to be released

Angelica: And I want a pony. You can't always get what you want.
You learned it from the Rugrats. I learned it from the Rolling Stones!
It's a different age where nobody wants to honor the contract they signed. I hope they can come to some sort of compromise. But that's going to be difficult because of the salary cap. But I'm told the cap is a myth, so who knows?
What I learned from the Stones was, Sometimes you get what you need. Smith not being granted his release may be the best thing for him.

I just turned 60, so I know the Stones line well, it just wasn’t as funny as hearing Angelica say it. Lol

Contracts go both ways. Teams sign players fully aware of them not playing out that contract because it will cost to much in year 3 or 4. So, I don’t put this all on the players.

Agents however play that game. Sign a guy to a long term deal where payments escalate fully knowing they’ll never see then end of it. It makes the agent look good to his other and future clients. Eliminate that from the equation and players wouldn’t be upset about the deal they signed.
all I learned from the Stones was if there is a red door,  I will likely want to paint it black.
And,

Some girls give me children, I never asked them for
damn near learned that one the hard way my SR year,  and it wasnt from a song... some lotteries you dont want to win!
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