Ed Donatell....bub bye

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@medaille said:
I think there’s some amount of shared responsibility in that
KAM and KOC picked Donatell because they wanted the Fangio defensive
scheme.  Then between the 3 of them they
determined which players they needed to run the scheme and got whatever they
felt was needed to have whatever amount of success they were expecting to
have.  Then at the end of the year Fangio
defenses around the league have been struggling because the scheme has been
figured out, Ring of Honor caliber players who are known for their intelligence
like Smith and Kendricks look like they’ve fallen off a cliff.  I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some
amount of investigation required in determining how much responsibility needed
to be doled out to 1)  Bad initial scheme
choice 2)  Better player scheme fit  3)  Players
that just got old  4)  Donatell sucks as a DC.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re trying to
hash out if Donatell was given better talent, and they chose a different
scheme, would he be able to coach the defense to an adequate level and if they
got rid of him, what caliber of DC would they be able to bring in to replace
him.

I have no idea how much responsibility/blame falls on KAM re Donatell. Did KOC get to pick his DC? I would assume so. Did KAM need to approve ED or did KOC have the only say on this issue? Don't know. In the end, it does not matter much. The D was by far the worst part of this team and KOC knows it.

KOC does not coach the D but he is responsible for all the coaching. There may have been good reasons not to change DCs mid-season while the team is running away with the division and compiling a 13-4 record. But the season is over now and it is time to part ways with Donatell. KOC has very little choice in the matter. Imagine if he brings ED back and the defense sucks again and ruins another season. KOC's job as HC may be at risk and he may be seen as having an OC ceiling without having the temperament to admit his mistakes (clearly not the case) or the balls to correct them. 

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@dadevike said:

@medaille said:
I think there’s some amount of shared responsibility in that
KAM and KOC picked Donatell because they wanted the Fangio defensive
scheme.  Then between the 3 of them they
determined which players they needed to run the scheme and got whatever they
felt was needed to have whatever amount of success they were expecting to
have.  Then at the end of the year Fangio
defenses around the league have been struggling because the scheme has been
figured out, Ring of Honor caliber players who are known for their intelligence
like Smith and Kendricks look like they’ve fallen off a cliff.  I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some
amount of investigation required in determining how much responsibility needed
to be doled out to 1)  Bad initial scheme
choice 2)  Better player scheme fit  3)  Players
that just got old  4)  Donatell sucks as a DC.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re trying to
hash out if Donatell was given better talent, and they chose a different
scheme, would he be able to coach the defense to an adequate level and if they
got rid of him, what caliber of DC would they be able to bring in to replace
him.

I have no idea how much responsibility/blame falls on KAM re Donatell. Did KOC get to pick his DC? I would assume so. Did KAM need to approve ED or did KOC have the only say on this issue? Don't know. In the end, it does not matter much. The D was by far the worst part of this team and KOC knows it.

KOC does not coach the D but he is responsible for all the coaching. There may have been good reasons not to change DCs mid-season while the team is running away with the division and compiling a 13-4 record. But the season is over now and it is time to part ways with Donatell. KOC has very little choice in the matter. Imagine if he brings ED back and the defense sucks again and ruins another season. KOC's job as HC may be at risk and he may be seen as having an OC ceiling without having the temperament to admit his mistakes (clearly not the case) or the balls to correct them. 

KOC’s job being at risk because of Donatell only occurs if
he makes his decision in a vacuum or vouches for Donatell.  If a bunch of smart front office people get
together and come to a consensus, it would be a much bigger problem if they
threw KOC under the bus after their group decision failed.  While I think everyone is super impatient and
heads must roll, I don’t think they are at tremendous risk of ruining next year
by missing out on the perfect DC option by taking a couple days to figure out a
full plan rather than shitcanning Donatell and then figuring out a plan.

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Can't just shit can Ed without shit caning the scheme. Of the teams that run this scheme, none of them are successful. So running the same scheme with a different coach isn't likely to improve results. The same with bringing in players to better fit the scheme. At least a handful of teams primarily run this scheme each with their own set of players, they aren't successful. The scheme is flawed.
Ed needs to go and take the scheme out the door with him!

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the don't need to fire him, he was on a 1 year contract

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@1VikesFan said:
https://twitter.com/vikesinsider/status/...ARE8VZP3Dg&s=19

Yes, you can feel the love in that, can't you? 

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@StickyBun said:

@1VikesFan said:
https://twitter.com/vikesinsider/status/...ARE8VZP3Dg&s=19

Yes, you can feel the love in that, can't you? 

Think he'd just say yes if it were yes.  But it's a corporate-speak organization.

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@peacebringer said:
the don't need to fire him, he was on a 1 year contract

But they can definitely tell him they aren't offering him another contract 

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I think fans will like his new position… on the porch!  B)  

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