One and done sucks balls and at least for me (tonight) casts a different light on a very successful regular season. I'll probably lighten up on it soon, but tonight I am po'd.
That last pass from KC was a terrible decision, very triggering for me back to check down Charlie
Where the fuck were the plays to JJ the second 1/2? And getting back to that last play to TJH - throw it to JJ and let him go get it or probably draw the PI
That trip by Cook was very costly...He might still be running to the end zone.
Dumb 3/1 call by KOC too
Oh well, I didnt expect a deep play off run, but my hopes got raised and then dashed - see my sig.
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
slitting my wrists....wheres my electric razor?
We all knew how it would end. we wouldnt get past the Niners
Oh no! Is that the voice of reason I'm hearing?
Most successful teams have had to knock on the playoff door a time or three before they can break through.
So the goal is to improve and get back there next year.
There will be a lot of gnashing of teeth and consternation about coaching or scheme. But the bottom line is the improvement part. They need better personnel. They don't have the players they need to be competitive at several positions. Championship teams are solid from top to bottom. Vikes aren't there yet.
Kwesi is going to have to earn his money this off season.
Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
Meh
You’re going to blame another thing on Kirk? Was anyone else open? Had he thrown a pick, you’d be pissed about that too.
Had they won, you’d be pissed when SF blew them out next week.
It was a good season with a lot of fun games. Super Bowl wasn’t even thought of at the end of last season or the beginning of the year.
The defense let this team down, not Kirk’s last throw. At the very least, question the right things. Kirk’s play this entire year kept them in games when the defense shit the bed.
Offense was outscored the first 3 quarters all year, the D giving up points doesn't prevent the O from answering, all year the blame has been on the D, but the O has repeatedly failed to answer the bell until they are down a couple score and forced to get aggressive, some of that is play calling, but some of that is on Kirk and the rest of the O. Remember when the damn O is going 3 and out for a quarter or more, its the D that pays the price and they didnt need any more challenges.
2 of the 4 regular season losses the opponents scored 40 or more. The Lions hung 34 on us. Losing to the Eagles 2nd rated defense at the beginning of the season is understandable.
Expecting this offense to keep answering the bell is a nice thought, but not realistic. The other teams also have defenses, and this offense would have to be near perfect. Of the teams still in playoff contention, 6 are in the top 10 defensively. Having the 31st rated defense makes it hard for me fathom this team actually won 13 games.
2 of the teams regular season Ioses we didn't score more than 7, another less than 18. Let's not pretend there isn't issues on O. I'm not saying the D doesn't need an overhaul, but there needs to be some major looks at the O as well.
All 4 of our regular season losses were against playoff teams, 3 of the 4 we really weren't in the game and that wasn't a defensive failure alone, our high power high drafted, high paid O just couldn't answer the bell.
31/39 273 2TD 0int.
WTF else would you like the guy to do?
Should he play defense as well?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
Meh
You’re going to blame another thing on Kirk? Was anyone else open? Had he thrown a pick, you’d be pissed about that too.
Had they won, you’d be pissed when SF blew them out next week.
It was a good season with a lot of fun games. Super Bowl wasn’t even thought of at the end of last season or the beginning of the year.
The defense let this team down, not Kirk’s last throw. At the very least, question the right things. Kirk’s play this entire year kept them in games when the defense shit the bed.
Offense was outscored the first 3 quarters all year, the D giving up points doesn't prevent the O from answering, all year the blame has been on the D, but the O has repeatedly failed to answer the bell until they are down a couple score and forced to get aggressive, some of that is play calling, but some of that is on Kirk and the rest of the O. Remember when the damn O is going 3 and out for a quarter or more, it’s the D that pays the price and they didnt need any more challenges.
That’s a weird spin. But, I guess you’re entitled to saying what you want.
I guess the offense is supposed to score every time they have the ball. Because every other team’s offense does that. The defense was hot garbage all year. They played well once in a while.
I blame none of this game on the offense. The one questionable play call was the throw back to Cousins. But that wasn’t on Cousins.
Really? None of it on the O? Bradbury was on rollerskates all game once again, wide open receivers go unnoticed, play calls into the teeth of the defense...but those are defensive failures? I am not ignoring how bad our defense was this year, but lets not pretend that our O is not and has not been an issue far to often this year?
The move to a 34 was a mistake given our personnel and that was known before the season started, and has been used as an excuse for our Os failure to play up to the opponent all season. It was a nice first season for a new coaching staff, but was it the best for the longterm success of the team?
I thought they played well enough to win. Like they have most of the year. 11-1 in one score games. The one that mattered today, they lost. But, you can’t fault an offense that keeps you in the game even when your defense is garbage. Hell, after the Giants responded like they did, past Vikings teams would have folded up and got blown out.
Failed to play up to the opponent? They scored enough points to win 13 games. What more do you want? I mean we all want a Super Bowl, but they won 13 games in the first season of a Head Coach. While the other team’s offense is out there seemingly scoring at will against the defense, their defense gets to rest and look at the previous drive by the offense and make adjustments, something Donatell had no clue how to do.
The Giants did what they wanted today on offense. The Vikings went from making non starting QB’s look good, to making every QB look good. I think right after the game ended they talked about Jones setting a record with passing yards and rushing yards for a QB in a game.
The false start by Darrisaw was a killer. We should cut him I guess. The throw back to Cousins was dumb. Fire KOC! The last play by the Vikings, yeah you’d have liked to have seen it go deeper. But, I don’t know what was there and what wasn’t there. Maybe TJ was the only choice.
There is always room for improvement. Hell the Giants wanted to win too, so you have to give them credit for having a good game plan against the Vikings offense. Wink good today, he switched things up and caused some adjustments on offense. They have a very good defense and I think they’ll give SF a run, simply because they play good defense and run the ball well.
Good season IMO, I’ll come back here and see what all the NFL GM’s that obviously post here say about that upcoming draft.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
Meh
You’re going to blame another thing on Kirk? Was anyone else open? Had he thrown a pick, you’d be pissed about that too.
Had they won, you’d be pissed when SF blew them out next week.
It was a good season with a lot of fun games. Super Bowl wasn’t even thought of at the end of last season or the beginning of the year.
The defense let this team down, not Kirk’s last throw. At the very least, question the right things. Kirk’s play this entire year kept them in games when the defense shit the bed.
Offense was outscored the first 3 quarters all year, the D giving up points doesn't prevent the O from answering, all year the blame has been on the D, but the O has repeatedly failed to answer the bell until they are down a couple score and forced to get aggressive, some of that is play calling, but some of that is on Kirk and the rest of the O. Remember when the damn O is going 3 and out for a quarter or more, its the D that pays the price and they didnt need any more challenges.
2 of the 4 regular season losses the opponents scored 40 or more. The Lions hung 34 on us. Losing to the Eagles 2nd rated defense at the beginning of the season is understandable.
Expecting this offense to keep answering the bell is a nice thought, but not realistic. The other teams also have defenses, and this offense would have to be near perfect. Of the teams still in playoff contention, 6 are in the top 10 defensively. Having the 31st rated defense makes it hard for me fathom this team actually won 13 games.
2 of the teams regular season Ioses we didn't score more than 7, another less than 18. Let's not pretend there isn't issues on O. I'm not saying the D doesn't need an overhaul, but there needs to be some major looks at the O as well.
All 4 of our regular season losses were against playoff teams, 3 of the 4 we really weren't in the game and that wasn't a defensive failure alone, our high power high drafted, high paid O just couldn't answer the bell.
GB didn’t make the playoffs.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
That last pass from KC was a terrible decision, very triggering for me back to check down Charlie
Dumb 3/1 call by KOC too
Inexplicable, those two calls by the O.
one in the first half, one in the second
BUT GAWD, how does kirk throw it 3 yds short on the final play, needing 9.
GAWD
Quote: @TBro said:
As good as Cousins played most of the game, he will be remembered by a Checkdown Pass that had no chance for a first down. Game over. Baffling.
Much more complicated than that. I think TJH was the first read and they went to that well one to many times. Giants switched up their defense, KOC made a bad call and Cousins should have audibled out of the called play.
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ Riphawkins said:
Meh
You’re going to blame another thing on Kirk? Was anyone else open? Had he thrown a pick, you’d be pissed about that too.
Had they won, you’d be pissed when SF blew them out next week.
It was a good season with a lot of fun games. Super Bowl wasn’t even thought of at the end of last season or the beginning of the year.
The defense let this team down, not Kirk’s last throw. At the very least, question the right things. Kirk’s play this entire year kept them in games when the defense shit the bed.
Last play on fourth down which determines the end of the season. Why not throw beyond the yard of gain? May have a low probability of success with a longer throw but a pass well short of the sticks also has a low probability. IMO, a bad decision.
I would have watched the game against the 49er's but would give the MV a low probability of winning. SF is simply a better team.
Today's game was lost by our inept defense. The DC has gotta go and we need definitely need some new talent on the D side. KOC and KAM have their work cut out for them. Keeping the current DC will piss off a lot of fans...
I watched the Miami/Buffalo game. They have good WR’s and it seemed the long ball on must have downs was thrown a few times and they failed. I don’t know why?? Maybe Kirk should have, although they weren’t calling a lot of PI on the DB’s from the Giants. Seems in the playoffs, they just let them play.
There is always a lot of second guessing. Sometimes Kirk frustrates the Frick out of me, but I know he’s better than a lot of QB’s out there.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
@ TBro said:
As good as Cousins played most of the game, he will be remembered by a Checkdown Pass that had no chance for a first down. Game over. Baffling.
Much more complicated than that. I think TJH was the first read and they went to that well one to many times. Giants switched up their defense, KOC made a bad call and Cousins should have audibled out of the called play.
Listening to KFAN, Lawrence looped around Bradbury and Cleveland and got to Cousins before he had time to let the routes develop so he heaved it TJ hoping for a prayer after the catch.
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