Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JR44 said:
@ Chuckf said:
Yeah, this happened ALL THE TIME pre COVID vaccines.....RIGHT?
So no one ever died before? So beyond embarrassing we have people on this sight that want to push this BS agenda. Take it to your cult website with the rest of the loonies.
This.
No , not "This', just because you disagree with something doesn't make it occult. This type of response is why we have so much division in this country. If you want to refute the assertion then do it with numbers and statistics, this type of response just makes those that disagree look ignorant and desperate.
I think it would have been prudent for the OP to have waited for some medical reports to help him make his argument, but after the censoring and false narratives we saw surrounding covid, can we really trust what we get surrounding the after affects of the drugs used to try and control the disease? I mean listen to the side affects for every drug advertised on TV every day, most of those side affects are worse than the issue they are claiming to treat, and those drugs had FDA testing and approval, and dont come with an immunity deal for the manufacturers. I think its not crazy to question the safety of these drugs, especially when medical professionals on this field have cautioned their use for everyone.
Now the question for the OP, are these instances of cardiac issue in anyway tied to a certain covid related drug, and are we seeing rates of cardiac related issues for those in certain age brackets any greater than we would have prior to covid?
We live in a world where every death gets assigned a cause, nobody dies of old age anymore. Why are we so quick to assume and accept that otherwise perfectly healthy young people are having cardiac issues and not wanting to know if its cause is something that could have been prevented? If they can tie it to a covid drug, but show that its tied to a pre existing matter and that another drug wouldn't have this affect, isn't that what science and the medical community should do? If you had a loved one that fit into that mold, wouldn't you want to know this information?
Civil discussion and information exchange is what this forum is for, belittling those of opposing view does nothing but make everyone more ignorant and more hostile.
I thought I was told to avoid talking about the Vax, so I didn't mention any kind of cause to the death. This discussion is showing in the same forum I originally posted to, so not understanding why it's now permitted. lol I thought it was sad that yet another young athlete died. Anybody claiming the amount of cases haven't increased is being spoon fed their information and not digging deep enough. Yes, deaths amongst athletes have zoomed since the Vax. It's difficult, but not impossible to find data that supports this due to the collusion in social media and the government. This has been proven within the Twitter files being released. It was known to most well before that. I will start to pull up statistics on what is totally obvious from all-death statistics from around the world. More to come... A real discussion gets to be had??
So, this is an article that gives some numbers on deaths that are pretty striking. There will be 50 outlets attacking the same kind of study that would be widely accepted were it in favor of the vaccine. The numbers are alarming, and really undeniable. The other pivot in the media is to acknowledge the vast increase in the all death rate and assign it to covid. It's not resisted by the rest of the media or government, so it's accepted. I saw today that another college tennis player died today at 20.
The frustrating part in fighting this fight is the collusion of media and government going on. It's undeniable, but also makes finding the obvious nearly impossible at times.
Study finds Athlete Deaths are 1700% higher than expected since Covid-19 Vaccination began – [your]NEWS (yournews.com)
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JR44 said:
@ Chuckf said:
Yeah, this happened ALL THE TIME pre COVID vaccines.....RIGHT?
So no one ever died before? So beyond embarrassing we have people on this sight that want to push this BS agenda. Take it to your cult website with the rest of the loonies.
This.
No , not "This', just because you disagree with something doesn't make it occult. This type of response is why we have so much division in this country. If you want to refute the assertion then do it with numbers and statistics, this type of response just makes those that disagree look ignorant and desperate.
I think it would have been prudent for the OP to have waited for some medical reports to help him make his argument, but after the censoring and false narratives we saw surrounding covid, can we really trust what we get surrounding the after affects of the drugs used to try and control the disease? I mean listen to the side affects for every drug advertised on TV every day, most of those side affects are worse than the issue they are claiming to treat, and those drugs had FDA testing and approval, and dont come with an immunity deal for the manufacturers. I think its not crazy to question the safety of these drugs, especially when medical professionals on this field have cautioned their use for everyone.
Now the question for the OP, are these instances of cardiac issue in anyway tied to a certain covid related drug, and are we seeing rates of cardiac related issues for those in certain age brackets any greater than we would have prior to covid?
We live in a world where every death gets assigned a cause, nobody dies of old age anymore. Why are we so quick to assume and accept that otherwise perfectly healthy young people are having cardiac issues and not wanting to know if its cause is something that could have been prevented? If they can tie it to a covid drug, but show that its tied to a pre existing matter and that another drug wouldn't have this affect, isn't that what science and the medical community should do? If you had a loved one that fit into that mold, wouldn't you want to know this information?
Civil discussion and information exchange is what this forum is for, belittling those of opposing view does nothing but make everyone more ignorant and more hostile.
Relax. We get it, you believe the nonsensical ridiculous bullshit as well. Duly noted. Its like saying we should have civil discourse that the world is not flat or that 5G is mind control and causes cancer.
Maybe we should change 'Sensitive Topics' to 'Wacko Horseshit Nutjob Topics' and then posters would better understand what is there. Just a thought.
It just amazes me the anger from the other side of this issue. It isn't exactly tin foil hat crazy to think that the vaccine is having adverse effects and that it may even be targeting people of a certain age group, gender, health status, etc... The long-term effects have absolutely no way of being determined at this point in time, yet there are those that just say it's settled science that the vaccine is good for all ages at all times every time someone in the government or Big Pharma says so. It's not crazy to question that. I think it's crazy not to.
Obviously the government has failed to build trust with a very large segment of the population. The amount of people refusing to get boosters says everything and so do my conversations with those that originally received the vax and disagreed respectfully at the time with me. Most everyone of them I talked to are the ones not receiving the boosters. The ones that are, are the ones that get over the top angry every time it's brought up. Just my observation, no data to back that up other than people not getting their boosters. That's provable.
With the recent findings of collusion between the government and Twitter on the Covid messaging, I think people probably need to reset some of their prior beliefs. We know that the same thing is happening with most of the social and broadcast media as well. If that makes me nuts, then so be it, I'm glad I'm nuts.
In my mind, this issue is about a person's right to choose their preferred method of treatment. Not only were people being forced to be vaxxed, doctors were being sanctioned if providing things like Ivermectin or Antibiotics, therapeutics with very few to any known side effects, and found in many studies to be effective. That was before the holy union of the media and the govt tried to discredit all of those studies, while not conducting any of their own on Masking, etc..
So there is an absolute relation to Chuck Hughes, athlete and the Covid vaccination. Hughes was inoculated by a time traveler who informed Trump corp. and enabled them to warn their minions, the American People, of the dangers thereby allowing them to save humanity. In 1943 John G. Trump, 45's uncle and MIT physicist, at the behest of the "Office of Alien Property Custodian", was given the task reviewing Nikola Tesla's technical papers. Within three days John G.Trump determined there were "no hazards" contained in the 80 "Trunks" of technical files, sixty trunks were stored. The 20 "lost" trunks some how found their way to the Office of Scientific Research and Development, the OSRD. The OSRD was under the leadership of Vannevar Bush, no relation to Prescott Bush, but the two were close friends due to the proximity of golf lockers, in some circles Vannevar and Prescott have been attributed with inventing the skins game. The OSRD was know for development of technologies and also methodologies. Technologies such as the proximity fuse, radar and the S-1 Section, later know as the Manhattan Project. The OSRD also pushed the boundaries with human experimentation using conscientious objectors to test the effects of malaria, saltwater ingestion, hypothermia and temperature extremes. All this is well documented BUT what is not taught in woke history classes is the most damning, but be assured there is much information on the internet none of which is presented by "experts".
No FOIA will tell the truth about Tesla and his theories of time travel, you have to do many hours of research on the internet to find it. Good luck getting the financial records of betting on a golf course and the debts incurred. But you can draw a straight line between Tesla, Trump, Time Travel, Bushes, Government, Human Experimentation,Covid vaccines and Athlete deaths if you believe in yourself and work really hard.
Ummm. Okay. nothing to do with this convo, though. At least none that I can figure out.
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