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Breaking: TJ Hockenson to the VIkings
#31
Great move. They are effectively trading down two rounds in 2023 and maybe giving up a 3rd round pick for Hockenson. You are unlikely to draft a player of his caliber in the late 2nd through 4th round. He's a great run blocker. Definitely an upgrade in the passing game.

If he decides not to resign with the Vikings, they are going to get a compensatory pick of some flavor that may effectively cancel out some of what they gave up to the Lions. If he plays well and resigns, they are going to fill a big need without using much draft capital. In any case, will help them make a push in 2022.
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#32
Quote: @AGRforever said:
Why would the Lions do this deal? How would he not be in their future rebuild?
Man, ya got me. 
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#33
Quote: @claykenny said:
Great move. They are effectively trading down two rounds in 2023 and maybe giving up a 3rd round pick for Hockenson. You are unlikely to draft a player of his caliber in the late 2nd through 4th round. He's a great run blocker. Definitely an upgrade in the passing game.

If he decides not to resign with the Vikings, they are going to get a compensatory pick of some flavor that may effectively cancel out some of what they gave up to the Lions. If he plays well and resigns, they are going to fill a big need without using much draft capital. In any case, will help them make a push in 2022.
I like the move. I've been hugely critical of Kwesi, but this move makes sense. Essentially we get Hockenson and a 4th this year, for a second round pick and a swap of 2024 4th rounders. 
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#34
Big move, but I like the direction - Established players in the league taking priority over “what could be” in the draft.  Always wondered why the F we would try to get ten picks, in full knowledge seven of them will be selling insurance the next year
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#35
Big Kirko has a new bff, & yes, I like that…!  B) B) B)  
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#36
This and other reports show us giving up a 2nd and 4th, not a 3rd

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1587...wcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftouchdownwire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F11%2F01%2Ft-j-hockenson-to-vikings-in-trade%2F
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#37
The moment I saw that ISJ was going to be sidelined 8-10 weeks, my heart dropped.  The moment that I saw Kwesi pulled the trigger on this, I had the opposite reaction.  This is a leap over and above ISJ.  A proven pro-bowl talent, with better TE receiving stats so far this season than we've seen in a while from anyone in purple.    I'd take a proven player, who is young (25) over a draft pick next year...all...day...long.  This is effectively those draft picks come to be serviceable today.  I approve this message.  A to A+ rating on this one.  In the meantime Detroit gives up Goff's #2 target to start rebuilding (again).
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#38
I will add that the first time ISJ dropped that wide open pass early in the season, I lost confidence in him.  I'd say there's a chance we won't see ISJ in a purple uniform again.  A reasonably good chance.

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#39
Quote: @AGRforever said:
Why would the Lions do this deal? How would he not be in their future rebuild?
Good question.  He is still on the rookie deal, they will likely change coaches again, but how do you not keep him?  For small return?
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#40
Quote: @JR44 said:
This and other reports show us giving up a 2nd and 4th, not a 3rd

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1587...wcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftouchdownwire.usatoday.com%2F2022%2F11%2F01%2Ft-j-hockenson-to-vikings-in-trade%2F
The Vikings will obviously now move to secure Hockenson with a long term contract...about the same contract they were looking at for ISJ.

So...the way I read this is the Vikings give up a much lower draft position 2nd for the Lions 4th next year...which will be very high in the round.

The Vikings also get a conditional 4th in 2024...and will also net likely a 3rd for "losing" ISJ.  


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