Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ RS Express said:
@ Greylock said:
A majority of Packer fans have never experienced a season without Favre or Rodgers as quarterback. Ask them who David Whitehurst is or Lynn Dickey or Don Majkowski is and they wouldn't have a clue. Rodgers is on a downhill slide and its picking up speed and it is a pleasure to see. He looked like a shell of his former self against Washington but with his salary, getting talent outside of the draft is going to be really hard to do.
This year and '23, Rodgers' cap hit is less than Cousins'. The big money doesn't hit the fan until '24.
According to overthrcap theres not a damn thing GB can do with Rodgers contract. Its so bloated tge dead money will kill them when they move on.
I dont know how they structured the contract particulars, and maybe it will cause em lots of pain down the road. But they really didnt have much of a choice but to sign him to a monster contract. Having a HOF'er and 3 time NFL MVP in their building is intoxicating.
Plus it looked like they had all the pieces for another run to the CG - until they didnt :p
FYI - Comparison of contracts per Spotrac:
2022 Cap hits:
Kirk Cousins - 32 million
Aaron Rodgers - 28 million
2023
Kirk - 36 million (dead cap hit 49 million)
Aaron -32 million (dead cap hit 100 million goes down to 25 million in 2024)
Both teams have to stick with their QB's next season unless they can unload in a trade but those Cap hits are prohibitive for interested teams as well. If we move on from Kirk after 2023 we have Cap hits of 13 and 6 the following 2 years.
I am hoping we dig real deep into the first round QB's this upcoming year even if Kirk brings us a SB victory. Their looks to be a handful of guys that could go 1st round.
what am i missing here that aaron has a 100 million dead cap hit in 23, is paid only 32 million, and the dead cap for 24 drops to 25 million?
I would think the dead cap money would drop the by the amount of cap hit he is "paid" out of the 22 season cap which is 32 million so wouldnt his 23 hit by about 68 million still?
Aaron Rodgers signed a 3 year, $150,815,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, including a $40,800,000 signing bonus, $150,815,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $50,271,667. In 2022, Rodgers will earn a base salary of $1,150,000, a signing bonus of $40,800,000 and a workout bonus of $50,000, while carrying a cap hit of $28,533,569 and a dead cap value of $151,047,137.
| CONTRACT TERMS:3 yr(s) / $150,815,000 | SIGNING BONUS$40,800,000 | AVERAGE SALARY$50,271,667 | GTD AT SIGN:$101,515,000 | TOTAL GTD:$150,815,000 | FREE AGENT:2025 / UFA |
| | BONUS BREAKDOWN | CAP DETAILS | CASH DETAILS | |
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| YEAR | | AGE | BASE SALARY | SIGNING | ROSTER | OPTION | WORKOUT | RESTRUCTURE | CAP HIT | DEAD CAP | YEARLY CASH | |
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| 2022 | ![[Image: gb.png]](https://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png) | 39 | $1,150,000 | $24,481,569 | - | - | $50,000 | $2,852,000 | $28,533,569 | $151,047,137 | $42,000,000($42,000,000) | | | 2023 | | 40 | $1,165,000 | $12,981,568 | - | $14,575,000 | $50,000 | $2,852,000 | $31,623,568 | $99,778,568 | $59,515,000($101,515,000) | | | 2024 | | 41 | $2,250,000 | $8,160,000 | - | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $40,701,667 | $24,480,000 | $49,300,000($150,815,000) | | | 2025 | | 42 | $15,850,000 | $8,160,000 | $5,000,000 | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $59,301,667 | $16,320,000 | $20,900,000($171,715,000) | | | 2026 | | 43 | $10,000,000 | $8,160,000 | $5,000,000 | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $53,451,667 | $8,160,000 | $15,050,000($186,765,000) |
Quote: @jargomcfargo said:
Rodgers, Brady, Wilson, and Ryan, are all looking old all of a sudden. So what happened?
There are signs of diminished play due to age in each of them. But mostly it appears to be a lack of good players on their respective offenses. In particular their offensive lines. It doesn't matter how many MVP's or Lombardi's you've won if you don't have protection.
It's a testament to Kirk Cousins to have played so well with the marginal offensive lines and pressure he has faced in the past. This year the offensive line has improved, but he still has faced more pressure than you like to see. The hope is, the line will continue to improve throughout the season and the Vikings fortunes will follow.
There is a changing of the guard as the old QB's are beginning to fade away. Wilson is a bit younger but certainly shows signs of being washed up.
I think Brady is further down that aging road than Rogers - and he should be being that much older. I still think Rogers (with the right surround) makes GB a very competitive & dangerous team. Not sure if that'll happen this year or not. But they'll give the Vikings all they can handle in Jan - I'm sure of that.
But overall I do agree with the sentiment...
The era of Mahomes & Josh Allen is here and shining bright for the rest of the league to feel envious about.
Matt Ryan is probably washed but the bigger story to me is why the Colts keep trading for these guys. First Rivers, then Wentz, now Ryan. I know drafting a young QB is a risk but at least it's cheap. These guys they've brought in are bad AND pricey. Seems like they've finally learned their lesson and are making the switch to Ehlinger, which is likely a tanking move.
Regarding Brady-- seems like his heart isn't in it right now. I'm not sure if he'll get it back or not. He threw a lotta balls in the dirt last week. Father Time might've finally come knocking.
Rodgers- I do think he'll figure it out. I thought he was washed 4 years ago and he's won 2 MVPs since then. His supporting cast right now outside of Aaron Jones is just really bad.
Wilson- similar to Rodgers. He went from having Metcalf and Lockett to having Sutton and Jeudy. That's a downgrade already and plus they are not familiar with him like the Seahawks guys were. Wilson's mobility is down but he's the youngest of this lot and the one I'm most confident in to right the ship. When that will be, who knows. He's hurt now so it could be next year. With Javonte Williams hurt as well this might just be a lost season for Denver.
Packers suckage is fun, no matter how you slice it…!!!  B)
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ RS Express said:
@ Greylock said:
A majority of Packer fans have never experienced a season without Favre or Rodgers as quarterback. Ask them who David Whitehurst is or Lynn Dickey or Don Majkowski is and they wouldn't have a clue. Rodgers is on a downhill slide and its picking up speed and it is a pleasure to see. He looked like a shell of his former self against Washington but with his salary, getting talent outside of the draft is going to be really hard to do.
This year and '23, Rodgers' cap hit is less than Cousins'. The big money doesn't hit the fan until '24.
According to overthrcap theres not a damn thing GB can do with Rodgers contract. Its so bloated tge dead money will kill them when they move on.
I dont know how they structured the contract particulars, and maybe it will cause em lots of pain down the road. But they really didnt have much of a choice but to sign him to a monster contract. Having a HOF'er and 3 time NFL MVP in their building is intoxicating.
Plus it looked like they had all the pieces for another run to the CG - until they didnt :p
FYI - Comparison of contracts per Spotrac:
2022 Cap hits:
Kirk Cousins - 32 million
Aaron Rodgers - 28 million
2023
Kirk - 36 million (dead cap hit 49 million)
Aaron -32 million (dead cap hit 100 million goes down to 25 million in 2024)
Both teams have to stick with their QB's next season unless they can unload in a trade but those Cap hits are prohibitive for interested teams as well. If we move on from Kirk after 2023 we have Cap hits of 13 and 6 the following 2 years.
I am hoping we dig real deep into the first round QB's this upcoming year even if Kirk brings us a SB victory. Their looks to be a handful of guys that could go 1st round.
what am i missing here that aaron has a 100 million dead cap hit in 23, is paid only 32 million, and the dead cap for 24 drops to 25 million?
I would think the dead cap money would drop the by the amount of cap hit he is "paid" out of the 22 season cap which is 32 million so wouldnt his 23 hit by about 68 million still?
Aaron Rodgers signed a 3 year, $150,815,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, including a $40,800,000 signing bonus, $150,815,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $50,271,667. In 2022, Rodgers will earn a base salary of $1,150,000, a signing bonus of $40,800,000 and a workout bonus of $50,000, while carrying a cap hit of $28,533,569 and a dead cap value of $151,047,137.
| CONTRACT TERMS:3 yr(s) / $150,815,000 | SIGNING BONUS$40,800,000 | AVERAGE SALARY$50,271,667 | GTD AT SIGN:$101,515,000 | TOTAL GTD:$150,815,000 | FREE AGENT:2025 / UFA |
| | BONUS BREAKDOWN | CAP DETAILS | CASH DETAILS | |
|---|
| YEAR | | AGE | BASE SALARY | SIGNING | ROSTER | OPTION | WORKOUT | RESTRUCTURE | CAP HIT | DEAD CAP | YEARLY CASH | |
|---|
| 2022 | | 39 | $1,150,000 | $24,481,569 | - | - | $50,000 | $2,852,000 | $28,533,569 | $151,047,137 | $42,000,000($42,000,000) | | | 2023 | | 40 | $1,165,000 | $12,981,568 | - | $14,575,000 | $50,000 | $2,852,000 | $31,623,568 | $99,778,568 | $59,515,000($101,515,000) | | | 2024 | | 41 | $2,250,000 | $8,160,000 | - | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $40,701,667 | $24,480,000 | $49,300,000($150,815,000) | | | 2025 | | 42 | $15,850,000 | $8,160,000 | $5,000,000 | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $59,301,667 | $16,320,000 | $20,900,000($171,715,000) | | | 2026 | | 43 | $10,000,000 | $8,160,000 | $5,000,000 | $30,241,667 | $50,000 | - | $53,451,667 | $8,160,000 | $15,050,000($186,765,000) |
I just looked, 2024 has a new contract that triggers that year that pushes that number back up to about 68 million, so if they keep him, they are F'd.
https://overthecap.com/player/aaron-rodgers/1085
OH. My side hurts laughing at this...so genuine and spot on. Maybe Eli and Peyton should have this guy on MNF?
Quote: @Montana Tom said:
OH. My side hurts laughing at this...so genuine and spot on. Maybe Eli and Peyton should have this guy on MNF?
That would be do awesome
The real question here.....in all seriousness.....
If Aaron Rodgers himself, paid off the mortgage on your house.....Would you agree to become a Packers fan?
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
The real question here.....in all seriousness.....
If Aaron Rodgers himself, paid off the mortgage on your house.....Would you agree to become a Packers fan?
Nope
Quote: @Vanguard83 said:
The real question here.....in all seriousness.....
If Aaron Rodgers himself, paid off the mortgage on your house.....Would you agree to become a Packers fan?
Since it is fiat currency, I probably could make a promise of the same backing.
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