Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Maybe I am in the minority but I just don't care. Unfortunately shit like this goes down all the time. Only reason anyone is aware of it is because it's Favre.
Now, back to football I go.
I don't think your in the minority of not caring but this kind of rip-off scheme and the amount does not go down all the time. We all comment on the welfare queen who rips off the system for a hundred/thousand's maybe but man this is 77 million welfare/federal tax dollars that a bunch of millionaires had their hand out for. Favre is the Wefare King!
in fairness... yes Favre somehow put his hand out for that money, but it wasnt for himself, he wasnt getting rich off the fraud as many do, it went to build a volleyball arena. wrong yes, but hardly to the level of many others that are using it to line their own pockets. its still wrong and as such deserves the punishments that go along with it, but 7 million or 77 million is still a drop in the bucket of the fraud that is taking place at the expense of the US tax payer.
personally I would like to see the audits of every nickel of tax dollars that gets sent to foreign countries for "aid" of any kind. I want to see how much of that ends up going to what its supposed to go to and not being funneled back to special interest foundations. especially when you are sending aid to countries to buy shit that could be produced right here in the US, why not put Americans to work building, growing, raising or whatever... the products that our tax dollars are supposed to be procuring for these overseas interests.
Brett was also paid for several speaking engaments that he never did using welfare money. So he enriched himself as well as build a nice new volleyball arena at his daughters school who happens to play volleyball. It is the poorest State in the Country and the Welfare King struck again.
I think another good example is Duncan Hunter who was elected to 6 terms in Congress. Before being elected for his 6th term (and winning his Republican primary), he was indicted for using campaign funds for personal use (including for a number of mistresses). Ironically, he blamed his wife for any irregularities. She pled guilty in June 2019. They were both indicted in August of 2018. He was re-elected in November. He subsequently pled guilty and resigned. Hunter was scheduled to report to the prison in January 2021. However, on December 22, 2020, Trump pardoned Hunter.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
I think another good example is Duncan Hunter who was elected to 6 terms in Congress. Before being elected for his 6th term (and winning his Republican primary), he was indicted for using campaign funds for personal use (including for a number of mistresses). Ironically, he blamed his wife for any irregularities. She pled guilty in June 2019. They were both indicted in August of 2018. He was re-elected in November. He subsequently pled guilty and resigned. Hunter was scheduled to report to the prison in January 2021. However, on December 22, 2020, Trump pardoned Hunter.
Had to refill the swamp with his cronies
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Maybe I am in the minority but I just don't care. Unfortunately shit like this goes down all the time. Only reason anyone is aware of it is because it's Favre.
Now, back to football I go.
I don't think your in the minority of not caring but this kind of rip-off scheme and the amount does not go down all the time. We all comment on the welfare queen who rips off the system for a hundred/thousand's maybe but man this is 77 million welfare/federal tax dollars that a bunch of millionaires had their hand out for. Favre is the Wefare King!
in fairness... yes Favre somehow put his hand out for that money, but it wasnt for himself, he wasnt getting rich off the fraud as many do, it went to build a volleyball arena. wrong yes, but hardly to the level of many others that are using it to line their own pockets. its still wrong and as such deserves the punishments that go along with it, but 7 million or 77 million is still a drop in the bucket of the fraud that is taking place at the expense of the US tax payer.
personally I would like to see the audits of every nickel of tax dollars that gets sent to foreign countries for "aid" of any kind. I want to see how much of that ends up going to what its supposed to go to and not being funneled back to special interest foundations. especially when you are sending aid to countries to buy shit that could be produced right here in the US, why not put Americans to work building, growing, raising or whatever... the products that our tax dollars are supposed to be procuring for these overseas interests.
Brett was also paid for several speaking engaments that he never did using welfare money. So he enriched himself as well as build a nice new volleyball arena at his daughters school who happens to play volleyball. It is the poorest State in the Country and the Welfare King struck again.
the stupid personal appearance fees scam has been going on forever, and yes its wrong. as far as the volleyball arena, yes his daughter went to that school and played volleyball, but again, no personal gain on that matter. why isnt there better oversight on all govt spending, or better yet, why do we have so much govt that there isnt enough oversight to make sure this shit doesnt happen? maybe instead of 85k new IRS agents going after the working class... how about focusing that effort on following up how the tax dollars that are collected are actually spent in the first place? put more emphasis on bang for buck and less on getting more bucks.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
the stupid personal appearance fees scam has been going on forever, and yes its wrong. as far as the volleyball arena, yes his daughter went to that school and played volleyball, but again, no personal gain on that matter. why isnt there better oversight on all govt spending, or better yet, why do we have so much govt that there isnt enough oversight to make sure this shit doesnt happen? maybe instead of 85k new IRS agents going after the working class... how about focusing that effort on following up how the tax dollars that are collected are actually spent in the first place? put more emphasis on bang for buck and less on getting more bucks.
At least on the federal level, they don’t really need tax
money to finance their projects. They
can just deficit spend, create more money and move on with their lives. Taxes serve a different purpose. Taxes minimize inflation of the monetary
supply and help hold the citizens down.
The new tax agents aren’t there to raise more money, they’re there for
two reasons related more to progress on the Great Reset. The first is that they are trying to move to
a financial system where everything is controlled by the government/corporations.
They want to clamp down on gig workers and
other financial transactions that are happening outside of their control. Ultimately they want to be able to shut off
your ability to spend money if you are a nuisance to them, in the same way that
they did to the Canadian truckers during their protest. Secondarily, the are trying to put additional
burden on people to decrease the number of home owners and increase the number
of renters. This centralizes control
over you in the hands of the large corporations that are buying up all the homes.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
the stupid personal appearance fees scam has been going on forever, and yes its wrong. as far as the volleyball arena, yes his daughter went to that school and played volleyball, but again, no personal gain on that matter. why isnt there better oversight on all govt spending, or better yet, why do we have so much govt that there isnt enough oversight to make sure this shit doesnt happen? maybe instead of 85k new IRS agents going after the working class... how about focusing that effort on following up how the tax dollars that are collected are actually spent in the first place? put more emphasis on bang for buck and less on getting more bucks.
Just so I understand your definition of "working class" -- Secretary of State has specifically written this regarding the increased funding of the IRS:
Quote:“Specifically, I direct that any additional resources—including any new personnel or auditors that are hired—shall not be used to increase the share of small business or households below the $400,000 threshold that are audited relative to historical levels. This means that, contrary to the misinformation from opponents of this legislation, small business or households earning $400,000 per year or less will not see an increase in the chances that they are audited.”
https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/JLY-letter-to-Commissioner-Rettig-Signed.pdf
Also, here: https://home.treasury.gov/system/files/136/The-American-Families-Plan-Tatwitter.compliance-Agenda.pdf
Quote:This involves spending nearly $80 billion on IRS priorities over the course of the decade including hiring new specialized enforcement staff, modernizing antiquated information technology, and investing in meaningful taxpayer service—including the implementation of the newly expanded credits aimed at providing support to American families. Importantly, the additional resources will go toward enforcement against those with the highest incomes, and audit rates will not rise relative to recent years for those earning less than $400,000 in actual income.
Really, it makes little sense to allocate resources towards the working class when the tax avoidance strategies are conducting by the ultra wealthy -- more bang for the buck auditing the super-rich. Most members of the working class are not, for example, receiving off-the-books compensation such as a rent-free apartment, expensive cars, private school tuition for his grandchildren and new furniture. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...-rcna43679
You have to be a real douchebag and greedy mother fucker to steal from the poor, unfortunately there are way too many people doing this. But again rich people and politicians have their own set of rules and take advantage of the system and game it.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
The Epstein case is a good example. In 2008, a US Attorney in the SD Florida entered into a plea agreement with Epstein that, subsequently, the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility described as exercised in "poor judgment." Pursuant to that deal, Epstein served just 13 months of an 18-month sentence and was granted lenient work release privileges that allowed him to spend up to 16 hours a day, seven days a week at a West Palm Beach office building and his home on Palm Beach Island. Moreover, and pertinent to your post above, this plea deal also conferred immunity in Florida to Epstein's alleged co-conspirators (personally, I have never seen a plea deal such as this). Now, you would think the US Attorney who negotiated such a bad deal would not have much of a future. Well, Trump nominated Alex Acosta, that US Attorney who showed poor judgment and gave immunity to "johns," as Secretary of Labor and he served for 2 years. During this period, Acosta proposed cutting the funding of his department's International Labor Affairs Bureau from $68 million in 2018 to under $20 million in 2020. That agency combats human trafficking (including child sex trafficking) internationally.
Not a good example. The only reason the media "hyper-focused" on Epstein...was because TRUMP.
And, btw, lame shot at Trump/Acosta. The local Palm Beach Dem prosecutor was MORE negligent, in spades.
The only reason for the media’s flood-the-zone coverage of Epstein is that they think they’ve found a Trump connection. Oh happy day. (Trump was friendly with Epstein 15 years ago — before banning him from Mar-a-Lago for life after he hit on a young girl working there.)
The main hook is: Trump’s Labor secretary, Alex Acosta, accepted a disreputable plea deal with Epstein while serving as a U.S. attorney under President Bush. If fixating on Acosta is what it takes to keep this case from being brushed under the rug (again), then I guess you can have him. But just between us, Acosta’s not the real villain.
It’s easy to forget, but Epstein’s arrest marks the third attempted prosecution of him for sex with underage girls.
It’s certainly been easy for the media to forget! In The New York Times’ version of events — and that of every other news outlet — the Palm Beach police discovered Epstein was paying minor girls from West Palm Beach for sex ... and then took the case straight to the FBI!
That seems odd: Why wouldn’t police bring their case to the local prosecutor, who was overseeing the investigation and issuing subpoenas?
Because they did.
Unfortunately, the local prosecutor in this case was a sleazebag, activist Democrat named Barry Krischer.
When Krischer, then Palm Beach state attorney, found out the target was Epstein, a big Democratic donor, he refused to prosecute. It was only because of Krischer’s active obstruction of the case that the Palm Beach chief of police, Michael Reiter, begged the FBI to intervene.
Acosta may have buckled in the end, but at the time, he was a knight in shining armor rushing in after Krischer killed the case.
Pretty much everything we know about Epstein’s (alleged) molestation of minors is known because of the original 11-month investigation by the Palm Beach police, tied up in a bow and handed to Krischer in 2006.
The police had sworn statements from dozens of witnesses, including five underage girls who said they’d been paid to engage in sex acts with Epstein, as well as statements from 17 other witnesses.
One of Epstein’s procurers, 20-year-old Haley Robson, told the police she had first met Epstein when she was 17 years old — 18 is the age of consent in Florida — and he paid her to give him a naked massage, whereupon he sexually assaulted her.
Robson said she’d brought at least six minor girls to Epstein, and they’d been paid $200 to $1,000 apiece for naked massages and sex acts. “The more you do, the more you get paid,” one of Epstein’s assistants told a girl in a phone call tape-recorded by the police.
But instead of charging Epstein, Krischer took the highly unusual step of presenting the case to a grand jury (a trick Florida prosecutors use when they don’t want an indictment, but want it to look like they tried).
I wasn’t there for his presentation, but I get the feeling Krischer just didn’t have his heart in it. The jurors returned an indictment on only a single count, “solicitation of prostitution.”
But how has Krischer emerged smelling like a rose? He’s the one who engineered the main cover-up! According to Chief Reiter, Krischer seemed to be protecting Epstein. Are Epstein’s powerful friends rewarding him with a cloak of invisibility?
Without Acosta stepping in to at least try to clean up after Krischer, Epstein never would have served a single day in jail. (Inasmuch as Epstein pleaded to state crimes, the lenient terms of his confinement were the purview of local authorities and completely out of Acosta’s hands.)
He never would have had to register as a sex offender. He never would have been required to pay the victims a cent in restitution.
Yet Acosta is treated as the only villain in this case. Where is Krischer?
He’s still a member in good standing of the Florida bar. Last December, Krischer was honored by the Anti-Defamation League for making “an outstanding contribution to the legal profession and to the community at large, while exemplifying the principles upon which [the ADL] was founded.” (By the way, Barry, a belated mazel tov!)
Throughout the whole sordid Epstein ordeal, there is ONE LEO who can hold his/her head high, the local Sherriff's Dept and his Deputies.
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ VikingOracle said:
The Epstein case is a good example. In 2008, a US Attorney in the SD Florida entered into a plea agreement with Epstein that, subsequently, the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility described as exercised in "poor judgment." Pursuant to that deal, Epstein served just 13 months of an 18-month sentence and was granted lenient work release privileges that allowed him to spend up to 16 hours a day, seven days a week at a West Palm Beach office building and his home on Palm Beach Island. Moreover, and pertinent to your post above, this plea deal also conferred immunity in Florida to Epstein's alleged co-conspirators (personally, I have never seen a plea deal such as this). Now, you would think the US Attorney who negotiated such a bad deal would not have much of a future. Well, Trump nominated Alex Acosta, that US Attorney who showed poor judgment and gave immunity to "johns," as Secretary of Labor and he served for 2 years. During this period, Acosta proposed cutting the funding of his department's International Labor Affairs Bureau from $68 million in 2018 to under $20 million in 2020. That agency combats human trafficking (including child sex trafficking) internationally.
Not a good example. The only reason the media "hyper-focused" on Epstein...was because TRUMP.
And, btw, lame shot at Trump/Acosta. The local Palm Beach Dem prosecutor was MORE negligent, in spades.
Actually, the additional facts you raised makes this an even better example -- the rich and powerful can get special treatment from both parties and the politicians, etc. that acquiesce/empower such behavior are not held accountable.
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
I think another good example is Duncan Hunter who was elected to 6 terms in Congress. Before being elected for his 6th term (and winning his Republican primary), he was indicted for using campaign funds for personal use (including for a number of mistresses). Ironically, he blamed his wife for any irregularities. She pled guilty in June 2019. They were both indicted in August of 2018. He was re-elected in November. He subsequently pled guilty and resigned. Hunter was scheduled to report to the prison in January 2021. However, on December 22, 2020, Trump pardoned Hunter.
Oy. Another shot at Trump! Favre's the "focus" here, bro.
But I guess when you can't get him (Trump) on his personal (Trump's) felony-leaked IRS tax records...you go trolling.
BTW, anyone else notice another famous athlete on the "indictment" list?
He was a YUGE southern footballer. Didn't have the pro career Favre did...but he's on the hook, for about the same amount.
1 point for ID'ing the other rascal footballer, 5 points for correctly explaining why he hasn't garnered the same "outrage/attention" as Favre.
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