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I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Quote: @medaille said:
I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Well, one way to clean up politics is to hyper-focus on every instance where a politician/"special person" is actually caught with his hand in the cookie jaw -- prosecute them to the full extent of the law, punish them to the full extent of the law, don't pardon them and don't re-elect them. Until we hold our politicians (of both parties) to the same rule of law that we apply to our regular citizens, we won't be deterring future politicians from serving their own self-interest over that of the people who elect them.
Quote: @medaille said:
I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Really?
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
@ medaille said:
I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Well, one way to clean up politics is to hyper-focus on every instance where a politician/"special person" is actually caught with his hand in the cookie jaw -- prosecute them to the full extent of the law, punish them to the full extent of the law, don't pardon them and don't re-elect them. Until we hold our politicians (of both parties) to the same rule of law that we apply to our regular citizens, we won't be deterring future politicians from serving their own self-interest over that of the people who elect them.
I don’t disagree, we definitely should prosecute them for
the crimes they commit, but I also think there’s this thing that happens where the
media hyper-focuses on one instance, and everyone puts blinders on and just
pretends it’s the only instance, rather than evidence that we need a deeper
broader investigation. Just look at
Epstein/Maxwell. They’re a cog in big
trafficking ring. The FBI took all the dvd
evidence of who the johns were and what they did to the kids and hid it from
view. Does anyone feel like the johns
are being investigated and prosecuted? I
don’t. One person takes the fall, and everyone
else is protected.
Quote: @medaille said:
@ VikingOracle said:
@ medaille said:
I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Well, one way to clean up politics is to hyper-focus on every instance where a politician/"special person" is actually caught with his hand in the cookie jaw -- prosecute them to the full extent of the law, punish them to the full extent of the law, don't pardon them and don't re-elect them. Until we hold our politicians (of both parties) to the same rule of law that we apply to our regular citizens, we won't be deterring future politicians from serving their own self-interest over that of the people who elect them.
I don’t disagree, we definitely should prosecute them for
the crimes they commit, but I also think there’s this thing that happens where the
media hyper-focuses on one instance, and everyone puts blinders on and just
pretends it’s the only instance, rather than evidence that we need a deeper
broader investigation. Just look at
Epstein/Maxwell. They’re a cog in big
trafficking ring. The FBI took all the dvd
evidence of who the johns were and what they did to the kids and hid it from
view. Does anyone feel like the johns
are being investigated and prosecuted? I
don’t. One person takes the fall, and everyone
else is protected.
Exactly. Yes we need to hyper focus on the politicians, but too often they just skate by and are re-elected. And as you say, the blinders on the FBI when it comes to certain people is just mind blowing.
Quote: @medaille said:
@ VikingOracle said:
@ medaille said:
I guess I don’t get the handwringing and why it’s hyperfocused
on this one instance. This is what
government is. It’s special people
taking our money to use for their projects.
Is this shady and immoral?
Obviously, yes. Is this standard
practice for like every politician? Also
yes. For a world that only reads headlines,
the conclusion is that Favre is a bad person, but the moral of the story isn’t
that Favre sucks, it’s that politics needs to be fixed to stop this type of
corruption.
Well, one way to clean up politics is to hyper-focus on every instance where a politician/"special person" is actually caught with his hand in the cookie jaw -- prosecute them to the full extent of the law, punish them to the full extent of the law, don't pardon them and don't re-elect them. Until we hold our politicians (of both parties) to the same rule of law that we apply to our regular citizens, we won't be deterring future politicians from serving their own self-interest over that of the people who elect them.
I don’t disagree, we definitely should prosecute them for
the crimes they commit, but I also think there’s this thing that happens where the
media hyper-focuses on one instance, and everyone puts blinders on and just
pretends it’s the only instance, rather than evidence that we need a deeper
broader investigation. Just look at
Epstein/Maxwell. They’re a cog in big
trafficking ring. The FBI took all the dvd
evidence of who the johns were and what they did to the kids and hid it from
view. Does anyone feel like the johns
are being investigated and prosecuted? I
don’t. One person takes the fall, and everyone
else is protected.
The Epstein case is a good example. In 2008, a US Attorney in the SD Florida entered into a plea agreement with Epstein that, subsequently, the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility described as exercised in "poor judgment." Pursuant to that deal, Epstein served just 13 months of an 18-month sentence and was granted lenient work release privileges that allowed him to spend up to 16 hours a day, seven days a week at a West Palm Beach office building and his home on Palm Beach Island. Moreover, and pertinent to your post above, this plea deal also conferred immunity in Florida to Epstein's alleged co-conspirators (personally, I have never seen a plea deal such as this). Now, you would think the US Attorney who negotiated such a bad deal would not have much of a future. Well, Trump nominated Alex Acosta, that US Attorney who showed poor judgment and gave immunity to "johns," as Secretary of Labor and he served for 2 years. During this period, Acosta proposed cutting the funding of his department's International Labor Affairs Bureau from $68 million in 2018 to under $20 million in 2020. That agency combats human trafficking (including child sex trafficking) internationally.
I don't think this is gonna blow over.
The govenor has been in other shady deals, going off of what he said in his texts.
Favre is just a name, he is disposable, if he he was anything special this would have never been looked at twice and certainly never been investigated. We are told to focus on the millions here so we aren't questioning the billions going elsewhere.
Olde Bert - cementing his place in historical lore as just a great person who's made good decisions for all the right reasons.
Slap on the asz and throw some TD's, woo hoo kinda guy! Pants on the ground!!
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