I think seeing what Everson and his family were going through helped open the door. It is important to recognize that even with money and fame, mental health issues don't care. Use the platform for good.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
It's a difference of perspective. Obviously working with mental health professionals is key but hearing about depression from someone that is experiencing it also resonates. It shows that people are not alone and that their feelings are valid.
An unhealthy and unconscious perspective can be very damaging for someone who is in the middle of severe depression. You do not tell someone who is going through real depression to suck it up and fight through it. How do you think that would have gone over with someone like Everyone Griffin. Would you go to the hospital and have your surgery performed by someone who went through the same surgery, because they could understand what it is like or would you want a licensed professional doctor.
Quote: @JR44 said:
@ Vikergirl said:
It's a difference of perspective. Obviously working with mental health professionals is key but hearing about depression from someone that is experiencing it also resonates. It shows that people are not alone and that their feelings are valid.
An unhealthy and unconscious perspective can be very damaging for someone who is in the middle of severe depression. You do not tell someone who is going through real depression to suck it up and fight through it. How do you think that would have gone over with someone like Everyone Griffin. Would you go to the hospital and have your surgery performed by someone who went through the same surgery, because they could understand what it is like or would you want a licensed professional doctor.
Of course that is taken into consideration. My point is the perspectives are complimentary. My perspective as someone working in mental health is different than my son that lives with depression. Both are important. There are multiple approaches to mental health and some include holistic health. Also everyone is individual and unique, what works for one doesn't work for all. There are also access to care and funding issues. There is an enormous need for mental health support.
Quote: @JR44 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ JR44 said:
I think that is great that the Vikes are devoting this kind of time to the subject, especially this year when we have seen so many young college athletes commit suicide, however to my knowledge Glazer does not have a professional background in this field, so I hope they also had some professionals involved in this 2 day training, because having the correct information is so vital.
perhaps a person of stature with first hand knowledge of the issue is as good as a person that has been trained. I doubt he is trying to treat them, more likely just sharing personal experience.
Unbreakable: How I Turned My Depression and Anxiety Into Motivation and You Can Too a relentless, unapologetic, and no-nonsense approach to overcoming your self-doubts, fears, and excuses… with the goal of becoming Unbreakable. He will show you how to use your insecurities, your own battles with mental health, to get where you need to go, scars and all.
Sorry, but by the title and description of his book, this is not someone who is qualified to work with real depression or mental health issues. You just don't push through it and take the tough guy route. If this is representative of the material that was covered than it could have done more harm than good. As someone who has worked in the field, I can tell you that no one is going to be better suited to deal with depression issues than someone who is licensed to practice in the field. Depression is not a 2 day rah rah event.
Your comments are the literal epitome of not judging a book by it's cover. I've worked in mental health going on 20 years. Sat in on a video seminar he spoke on and have watched/read countless interviews and read the book. None of what he conveys is "just push through it" or "tough guy route". Nor is he attempting to come off as a clinician.
He is very up front about seeing a therapist and psychiatrist to manage a med regimen. His book goes into detail about what his life is like when he stops putting those things at the forefront of maintaining stability. In fact he is such a proponent of therapy he has one on site at his gym.
He stopped taking his meds while writing the book so he could illustrate to those without lived experiences the difference in with/without meds.
Further he goes on to praise a team approach where his medical care team and personal supports are constantly interconnected in monitoring how he's doing.
It's foolish to think Glazer or any entity hiring him to speak is doing so with the mindset of treating anything. The whole point is he's someone with a tough guy reputation who is widely respected in a league of tough guys. So maybe, just maybe if they see another tough guy being open and showing it's okay to take care of your mental health, others will follow.
Lol, I've sat in on countless seminars where speakers arent licensed MH professionals, dont think anyone in attendance was actually thinking the speaker was supposed to be providing any sort of clinical expertise.
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ JR44 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ JR44 said:
I think that is great that the Vikes are devoting this kind of time to the subject, especially this year when we have seen so many young college athletes commit suicide, however to my knowledge Glazer does not have a professional background in this field, so I hope they also had some professionals involved in this 2 day training, because having the correct information is so vital.
perhaps a person of stature with first hand knowledge of the issue is as good as a person that has been trained. I doubt he is trying to treat them, more likely just sharing personal experience.
Unbreakable: How I Turned My Depression and Anxiety Into Motivation and You Can Too a relentless, unapologetic, and no-nonsense approach to overcoming your self-doubts, fears, and excuses… with the goal of becoming Unbreakable. He will show you how to use your insecurities, your own battles with mental health, to get where you need to go, scars and all.
Sorry, but by the title and description of his book, this is not someone who is qualified to work with real depression or mental health issues. You just don't push through it and take the tough guy route. If this is representative of the material that was covered than it could have done more harm than good. As someone who has worked in the field, I can tell you that no one is going to be better suited to deal with depression issues than someone who is licensed to practice in the field. Depression is not a 2 day rah rah event.
Your comments are the literal epitome of not judging a book by it's cover. I've worked in mental health going on 20 years. Sat in on a video seminar he spoke on and have watched/read countless interviews and read the book. None of what he conveys is "just push through it" or "tough guy route". Nor is he attempting to come off as a clinician.
He is very up front about seeing a therapist and psychiatrist to manage a med regimen. His book goes into detail about what his life is like when he stops putting those things at the forefront of maintaining stability. In fact he is such a proponent of therapy he has one on site at his gym.
He stopped taking his meds while writing the book so he could illustrate to those without lived experiences the difference in with/without meds.
Further he goes on to praise a team approach where his medical care team and personal supports are constantly interconnected in monitoring how he's doing.
It's foolish to think Glazer or any entity hiring him to speak is doing so with the mindset of treating anything. The whole point is he's someone with a tough guy reputation who is widely respected in a league of tough guys. So maybe, just maybe if they see another tough guy being open and showing it's okay to take care of your mental health, others will follow.
Lol, I've sat in on countless seminars where speakers arent licensed MH professionals, dont think anyone in attendance was actually thinking the speaker was supposed to be providing any sort of clinical expertise.
This.
Glazer is not about treatment, but about exposure.
Working in mental health for as long or longer than bigbone, I agree with impression.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Viking's ownership is very progressive.
Vikes ownership a BIG BUNCHA FUGGIN PUZZIES.
"mental health"....isues amongst millionaires.
Good God, you fuckers are RUBES!
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ StickyBun said:
Viking's ownership is very progressive.
Vikes ownership a BIG BUNCHA FUGGIN PUZZIES.
"mental health"....isues amongst millionaires.
Good God, you fuckers are RUBES!
Nah, just someone with half a brain and nearly 20 years experience in the mental health field. Mental illness doesnt discriminate by socioeconomic status.
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ StickyBun said:
Viking's ownership is very progressive.
Vikes ownership a BIG BUNCHA FUGGIN PUZZIES.
"mental health"....isues amongst millionaires.
Good God, you fuckers are RUBES!
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