Quote: @BigAl99 said:
Jeebus guys, quit it! There is a list of things that have happened, like back in 65 when Lou Johnson hit the foul pole in the 7th game of the WS. Or the Lakers getting swept in 59 championship after Elgin Baylors rookie phenom season then collapsing in 60 and moving to LA.... So just quit it, there is just not enough beer to go this route.
Yeah, we could do this all day. All month.
Back to Randy, Smith says that he's never seen anyone move like that. Forget the speed, the hands, the positioning, he had all that too. But what made him special was how he floated on air. You could see it in his Marshall tape. He was like a hover craft. So smooth. Just effortless. I'd never seen anything like it before and haven't since.
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
Quote: @Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time.
Even with that, I think Moss was still better than Rice...Randy was bigger and faster, a bona fide game changer. Jerry was in that category also. But still not in Randy's class.
Quote: @ArizonaViking said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time.
Even with that, I think Moss was still better than Rice...Randy was bigger and faster, a bona fide game changer. Jerry was in that category also. But still not in Randy's class.
Yes physically Randy and Calvin Johnson were the greatest physical specimens to ever play the position. But neither could touch Rice's consistent production and longevity.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time.
Randy definitely had his share of incidents, but he was far more dangerous than Rice was.
What's more, for 15 of 16 seasons in San Francisco, Rice had either Joe Montana or Steve Young throwing him the ball. Those were ridiculously talented rosters on both sides of the ball. Rice's stats benefitted enormously from that.
Moss was on a good team his rookie season, but it went down hill from there, with Cunningham, Johnson, then Culpepper without a shred of defense.
I think we saw what Moss was truly capable of when he got to play on a good team with a good QB. His first season in New England with Brady, Moss caught 23 TDs. The next season Brady tore his ACL, Cassel came in, and Moss's TD total went from 23 to 11.
Rice had a "Brady" for 15 straight seasons.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time Moss certainly had some character issues to overcome and tha'ts why he dropped to us
But really? How many of us had the maturity in our 20's that we have today?
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ Purpleblooded said:
Feel like it needs to be said — if Moss had half the maturity he seems to possess today during his playing career — oh man!
This is exactly what I think when I think about him. Randy Moss is my favorite player of all time, but I always think if he had the maturity he does now...how much better could he have been? I think he definitely would have overtaken Rice as the perceived greatest receiver of all time.
Moss certainly had some character issues to overcome and tha'ts why he dropped to us and didnt go top 5 that year.
But really? How many of us had the maturity in our 20's that we have today?
Honestly? I wish I had the maturity now that I did in my 20s. :p
I think Moss's issues were a little exaggerated. Sure, there was the meter maid thing and the leaving the field thing. No excuse for those.
But there were some things that were WAY overblown.
• I play when I want to play - Drives me crazy. He was responding to a question about who motivated him. He just didn't express his answer very well. Self-righteous fans and journalists who get angry about this are buffoons
• Taking plays off - EVERY receiver does this, NEEDS to do this.
• Shooting the moon - Loved it. Deservedly, Buck has gotten more criticism about his reaction to the act than Moss ever did about the act itself
I'm sure I'm forgetting a few, but I saw Moss as an immature kid who had an enormous heart and truly, genuinely cared about people...fans, kids, teammates. And that's a rare quality these days.
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