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#31
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@MaroonBells said:
@supafreak84 said:
I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come
Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 
Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 
Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

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#32
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@MaroonBells said:
@supafreak84 said:
I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come
Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 
Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 
Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

Exactly. Lets see how it looks in 3 years. You've been bitching its a shit show in Minnesota with KAM. Like a broken record kind of thing. So are you willing to wait or are you one of these knee jerk alarmist like a dog with a bone? just asking. 
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#33
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@MaroonBells said:
@supafreak84 said:
I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come
Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 
Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 
Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

Exactly. Lets see how it looks in 3 years. You've been bitching its a shit show in Minnesota with KAM. Like a broken record kind of thing. So are you willing to wait or are you one of these knee jerk alarmist like a dog with a bone? just asking. 
Oh and here come the cool aide drinkers out in force who if you disagree, brand you as a malcontent or knee jerker lol. Get real. Everything KAM has done thusfar has been questionable. Sure we all wait to see how it plays out but the guys moves have not been beyond criticism. I criticized Spielman just the same when I thought he made stupid moves. Are you one of those guys who thinks Biden is doing a great job too because he's in charge, and because of that, assume he knows what he's doing? Just asking...
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#34
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@MaroonBells said:
@supafreak84 said:
I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come
Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 
Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 
Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

Exactly. Lets see how it looks in 3 years. You've been bitching its a shit show in Minnesota with KAM. Like a broken record kind of thing. So are you willing to wait or are you one of these knee jerk alarmist like a dog with a bone? just asking. 
Oh and here come the cool aide drinkers out in force who if you disagree, brand you as a malcontent or knee jerker lol. Get real. Everything KAM has done thusfar has been questionable. Sure we all wait to see how it plays out but the guys moves have not been beyond criticism. I criticized Spielman just the same when I thought he made stupid moves. Are you one of those guys who thinks Biden is doing a great job too because he's in charge, and because of that, assume he knows what he's doing? Just asking...

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#35
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
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#36
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 
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#37
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 
It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  
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#38
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 
It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  
I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!
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#39
Quote: @minny65 said:
@supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 
It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  
I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!
Its not that politics cant exist. Its that it has its very own safe space in sensative topics. It doesn’t belong in a football thread. 
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#40
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@minny65 said:
@supafreak84 said:
@StickyBun said:
@supafreak84 said:
Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners
  • [Image: lions2_logo.gif] Detroit Lions
      [Image: Michigan_logo.gif] Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
      [Image: Alabama_logo.gif] Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

    When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.
First-Day Losers
  • [Image: vikings2_logo.gif] Minnesota Vikings
      [Image: Georgia_logo.gif] Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
    The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

    On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.
Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 
It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  
I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!
Its not that politics cant exist. Its that it has its very own safe space in sensative topics. It doesn’t belong in a football thread. 
Thank goodness we have a safe space for the echo chamber of rants Smile
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