Malik Willis: massive shift in the line

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If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

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@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

No doubt. I was just commenting on the rapid shift of the line. It was like in a couple of hours. Maybe there was a tip or some inside information. 

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@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Trading down from 12 to 32 for what they got made no sense either so nothing would surprise me.  I have no confidence that this guy has a clue of what he is doing and fully expect today will be more of the same. 

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@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Agreed.  If the Vikes choose Willis at 34 I will not be upset that it is Willis but I will be highly disappointed in Kwisi for not understanding the import of the 5th year option in QB selection.  It will show another fundamental failure.  That being said, if I was the Vikings I would be sending all sort of signals that I planned on picking Willis and then trade back a couple of picks (if I can get far greater value).

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@JR44 said:

@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Trading down from 12 to 32 for what they got made no sense either so nothing would surprise me.  I have no confidence that this guy has a clue of what he is doing and fully expect today will be more of the same. 

Well then you dont have to watch so that's good. We could allow today to play out and then talk again? One draft pick and one trade doesn't go the way we want and the sky is falling? How about we give it a while? 

Cine was a stud last year and the pick still allows Bynum to see the field as nickel. 

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I could be wrong but I think that's just the shift from before the draft to now. And that's likely only because he's one of the top players available and the Vikings have one of the first picks. As others have said, if the Vikings really liked Willis, they would've taken him at 32. 

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@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Maybe. The Bucs may have taken Cine since they lost Whitehead and those two are out of similar molds. The 5th year option has also lost some of its appeal in the new CBA, but I'd argue it still has value at the QB position specifically. The issue you run into with Willis (if you're MN) is he's sitting a year or 2 on a 4-year deal. So you get 2 seasons maybe 1 before you extend him of real benefit? 

I know they've done plenty of work on him so its not like I'd be floored if they took him 

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@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Another line of thinking could be, lets lock in a plug and play starting safety for 5 years on the rookie scale, instead of the potential for 3 years from a QB that may not be there our next pick. Kirk is the starter for two more years here 99% i would think 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@pattersaur said:
If the Vikings wanted QB I think they definitely would’ve done it at 32 so they could get the 5th year option. Makes no sense to give that to a safety instead who 85(99?)% chance would still be there 2 picks later. 

Maybe. The Bucs may have taken Cine since they lost Whitehead and those two are out of similar molds. The 5th year option has also lost some of its appeal in the new CBA, but I'd argue it still has value at the QB position specifically. The issue you run into with Willis (if you're MN) is he's sitting a year or 2 on a 4-year deal. So you get 2 seasons maybe 1 before you extend him of real benefit? 

I know they've done plenty of work on him so its not like I'd be floored if they took him 

While I don’t necessarily share in your positive spin on all this stuff over the past day, I appreciate it. Don’t disappear during the season this year there’s some Monday mornings when we really need the positivity haha.