Quote: @medaille said:
@ El_Padre said:
Couple of thoughts on this. Firstly, I wonder how long it will be before the packers of fudge fans start the "Davante wasn't even that good" talk. Secondly, I don't know that I'm overly happy with this. Yeah, its great he is out of the division, but the packers now have 2 firsts and 2 seconds in a deep WR class. Whats to stop them from double dipping in the first and coming out with 2 studs?
Well the odds of that happening aren't great. I think the odds for first round WRs is around 50-50, and the odds of either of them being Adams good isn't great, but that would suck.
It is the Packers. They lucked into Rodgers and that has been their team for the last decade. They skipped WRs for Love
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ bigbone62 said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Hehe, Erin is pissed. I love this
Zero chance this wasn't something both sides discussed during negotiations. Cannot imagine Rodgers signed without assurances as to plans A,B,C regarding the WR position.
Even before Rodgers signed Adam's made it clear he wasn't accepting the franchise tag. And GB had no intention of doing anything but franchising him this year then working out an extension next year.
Agree. I think the plan is for the Packers to bring in a cheaper veteran free agent and then draft one in the 1st round. Still, they have a lot of holes to fill and going from the best WR in the game to, say, JJ Smith Schuster is a big downgrade for the yeller team. The way defenses play them will change dramatically.
everything worked off of what they were able to do with Davante, his absence will definitely have a ripple affect. He is a damn good receiver, but lets keep in mind all the receivers that looked damn good working with Favre and Rogers and then went onto look pretty average for other teams. Part of what made Davante the weapon he has been was the guy throwing him the ball.
No doubt. Same with Justin Jefferson.
imagine how much better he would be with a great QB running the offense!
Right? He might even break records.
even without having to extend the season to 17 games.
He broke a few rookie records before they went to 17 games. Look, I'm not saying Cousins is as good as Rodgers. Just that the narrative always seems to be Rodgers makes Adams, which is partially true, but JJ does it all by himself, which, of course, is silly.
Ball placement with Cousins is rarely a concern for me, except when he's rattled and then he throws high because he doesn't transfer his weight forward, but putting the ball on the spot is typically Cousins strong suit. It's the other parts of his game is where I think he falls short. If he could buy another second in the pocket for himself, or be able to roll out better, then I think we would really see our O explode. He doesn't need to be a "running qb" he just needs to be less of a statue and more inclined to take that easy 6 yards when the D is laying off.
Fair enough. Don't disagree. Maybe KOC can unlock the gunslinger within and Cousins will go from good/great to great/elite. We'll see.
Devante only had 8 tds in the last 4 games against the Vikings, jeebus…
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ bigbone62 said:
@ 1VikesFan said:
Hehe, Erin is pissed. I love this
Zero chance this wasn't something both sides discussed during negotiations. Cannot imagine Rodgers signed without assurances as to plans A,B,C regarding the WR position.
Even before Rodgers signed Adam's made it clear he wasn't accepting the franchise tag. And GB had no intention of doing anything but franchising him this year then working out an extension next year.
Agree. I think the plan is for the Packers to bring in a cheaper veteran free agent and then draft one in the 1st round. Still, they have a lot of holes to fill and going from the best WR in the game to, say, JJ Smith Schuster is a big downgrade for the yeller team. The way defenses play them will change dramatically.
everything worked off of what they were able to do with Davante, his absence will definitely have a ripple affect. He is a damn good receiver, but lets keep in mind all the receivers that looked damn good working with Favre and Rogers and then went onto look pretty average for other teams. Part of what made Davante the weapon he has been was the guy throwing him the ball.
No doubt. Same with Justin Jefferson.
imagine how much better he would be with a great QB running the offense!
Right? He might even break records.
even without having to extend the season to 17 games.
He broke a few rookie records before they went to 17 games. Look, I'm not saying Cousins is as good as Rodgers. Just that the narrative always seems to be Rodgers makes Adams, which is partially true, but JJ does it all by himself, which, of course, is silly.
Ball placement with Cousins is rarely a concern for me, except when he's rattled and then he throws high because he doesn't transfer his weight forward, but putting the ball on the spot is typically Cousins strong suit. It's the other parts of his game is where I think he falls short. If he could buy another second in the pocket for himself, or be able to roll out better, then I think we would really see our O explode. He doesn't need to be a "running qb" he just needs to be less of a statue and more inclined to take that easy 6 yards when the D is laying off.
Fair enough. Don't disagree. Maybe KOC can unlock the gunslinger within and Cousins will go from good/great to great/elite. We'll see.
They've worked together in the past and I think we've seen what he is. At this point in his career I have my doubts he finally starts to become more active and proactive. Wjat he is, isnt bad, its just not that great and I think a modern NFL offense needs more to really put it over the top than what we've been seeing. If they can fix the D and put an OL in front of him then great, but I have my doubts its financially sustainable at his desired rate.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said: He doesn't need to be a "running qb" he just needs to be less of a statue and more inclined to take that easy 6 yards when the D is laying off.
This is what drives me the most nuts about him. The D is laying back 10 yards from the LOS to cover the WR/TE on that side because they know Kirk won't take off no matter how open the field in front of him. If he'd just take a few of those 6 yard gimmes, the D would have to react and come up, and then Kirk goes over the top for 15-20 yards.
Maybe tell Kirk that 6 yard runs look better on his QBR than throwaways?
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