Free Agency Day Two

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@JustinTime18™ said:
Do I have this right? The fan base that wants to tank to get better draft picks isn't patient enough to get through Day 2 of FA without getting all pissy.

JFC.

I could give a rats arse how someone else feels about my disposition.

This team has missed the playoffs the last two seasons.

What is there to be happy about?

It does not matter what they do until they do something on the MFing field.

I'll be pissed all offseason and will not drink any freakin kool aid.

Sounds like to me that you want the smoke to be blown where the sun don't shine.

I got you.

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Yes, the fact that you replied emphasizes how much you don't care.

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@supafreak84 said:

@JimmyinSD said:

@MarkSP18 said:

@Hawkvike25 said:
Jordan Hicks? Ugh...that dude is not very good

I have no clue what analytics led to this decision but an average LB for 5M per year when you are tight against the cap and need to sign some cornerbacks too?

You can get a Nick Vigil who had a better coverage grade (if you believe in the PFF grades) than Hicks.  

I mean, I guess it is OK but what about Dye and Surratt?

Shaq Mason (the #4 rated guard last year) goes for a 5th and has salaries of 6.5 and 7.5M the next two years and Kwesi could not get in on that action?  Would not surprise me if he had no clue about it to be honest.  Many other GMs probably did not either though.

Still, if you are going to continue to give Kirk freakin Cousins money, then why not give him the most best protection possible so that he does not have to move (he already barely moves).

I guess more moves are coming or they will draft a guard early.

I would have tried to sign a guard and draft a LB early.

Hard to get aggressive in FA when you dont have your cap figured out when FA starts.  I am sure they will field some sort of team but this is so Vikingesque to get the fans excited and then.........

Not a great start to free agency when IMO they lost on the Cousins extension, are essentially swapping Pierce for Phillips, and the other marquee signing is a MLB when they just drafted Surratt last year in the 3rd round. Somebody wake me when the Wallstreet dynamo does something to improve the roster.

I am not ready to condemn the kid yet,  but I was hoping that we would see him put some sort of stamp on this team and to date its been Rick 2.0,  with the exception that he has likely spoken to his HC in the last month.  I still think that he could be good for the team,  and honestly I wonder how much influence the wilfs have had on things thus far.  Poles is tearin shit down in Chicago and maybe that is why he chose that job over the Vikes is he more proactive and KAM is more of a massage it kind of guy which fits what the wilfs wanted?

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@JustinTime18™ said:

Will Ragatz

@WillRagatz

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Jordan Hicks, who turns 30 this summer, started all 49 games for the Cardinals over the last three years, with 116+ tackles every season. 89 total starts in his career. A versatile player and leader who can tackle and cover.

Arif over at the Athletic thought we got him at a bargain price. He fits the mold of an athletic, high performing LB that we didn't have to overpay for.  Paraphrasing Arif, Hicks fits the LB type that the Vic Fangio-Brandon Staley scheme calls for that Donatell will run.  

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@TBro said:

@JustinTime18™ said:

Will Ragatz

@WillRagatz

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Jordan Hicks, who turns 30 this summer, started all 49 games for the Cardinals over the last three years, with 116+ tackles every season. 89 total starts in his career. A versatile player and leader who can tackle and cover.

Arif over at the Athletic thought we got him at a bargain price. He fits the mold of an athletic, high performing LB that we didn't have to overpay for.  Paraphrasing Arif, Hicks fits the LB type that the Vic Fangio-Brandon Staley scheme calls for that Donatell will run.  

Did he say it in less than 5000 words?

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@JustinTime18™ said:

VikeFans

@VikeFans

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Anthony Barr returning to Minnesota? We hear it is a good possibility - an surprising as he makes too much for this roster unless he is finally going to be used as a pass rush playmaker in a 3-4 defense. Let's see what happens.

If you just crawled out from under a rock you would think Rick was still in charge of the team.  Pretty much inactive in the first two days of free agency.   Extend Cousins contract, then sign a defensive tackle for the third year in a row.  The possible return of Sean Mannion and Anthony Barr.  Somewhere Dakota Dozier is holed up in a Minneapolis hotel room waiting for a call back.  No wonder they say the more things change the more they stay the same.

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@Greylock said:

@JustinTime18™ said:

VikeFans

@VikeFans

·26m

Anthony Barr returning to Minnesota? We hear it is a good possibility - an surprising as he makes too much for this roster unless he is finally going to be used as a pass rush playmaker in a 3-4 defense. Let's see what happens.

If you just crawled out from under a rock you would think Rick was still in charge of the team.  Pretty much inactive in the first two days of free agency.   Extend Cousins contract, then sign a defensive tackle for the third year in a row.  The possible return of Sean Mannion and Anthony Barr.  Somewhere Dakota Dozier is holed up in a Minneapolis hotel room waiting for a call back.  No wonder they say the more things change the more they stay the same.

 What did you really expect?  New management starting out with a blown out of portion cap.  Even with restructured contracts and releasing overpaid players, there's still only limited funds.  This is not an overnight project we're looking at.  Visibly results are probably a couple years down the road.

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@ArizonaViking said:

@Greylock said:

@JustinTime18™ said:

VikeFans

@VikeFans

·26m

Anthony Barr returning to Minnesota? We hear it is a good possibility - an surprising as he makes too much for this roster unless he is finally going to be used as a pass rush playmaker in a 3-4 defense. Let's see what happens.

If you just crawled out from under a rock you would think Rick was still in charge of the team.  Pretty much inactive in the first two days of free agency.   Extend Cousins contract, then sign a defensive tackle for the third year in a row.  The possible return of Sean Mannion and Anthony Barr.  Somewhere Dakota Dozier is holed up in a Minneapolis hotel room waiting for a call back.  No wonder they say the more things change the more they stay the same.

 What did you really expect?  New management starting out with a blown out of portion cap.  Even with restructured contracts and releasing overpaid players, there's still only limited funds.  This is not an overnight project we're looking at.  Visibly results are probably a couple years down the road.

It’s the NFL. Results being “a couple years” down the road is not good enough when there’s multiple teams every year who go from the cellar to the playoffs. 

I’m still waiting for much more time before getting too anxious with the new FO, but to date there’s no doubt that the moves feel Spielman-esque, which is weird. We’ll see what happens the rest of the way. 

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@pattersaur said:

@ArizonaViking said:

@Greylock said:

@JustinTime18™ said:

VikeFans

@VikeFans

·26m

Anthony Barr returning to Minnesota? We hear it is a good possibility - an surprising as he makes too much for this roster unless he is finally going to be used as a pass rush playmaker in a 3-4 defense. Let's see what happens.

If you just crawled out from under a rock you would think Rick was still in charge of the team.  Pretty much inactive in the first two days of free agency.   Extend Cousins contract, then sign a defensive tackle for the third year in a row.  The possible return of Sean Mannion and Anthony Barr.  Somewhere Dakota Dozier is holed up in a Minneapolis hotel room waiting for a call back.  No wonder they say the more things change the more they stay the same.

 What did you really expect?  New management starting out with a blown out of portion cap.  Even with restructured contracts and releasing overpaid players, there's still only limited funds.  This is not an overnight project we're looking at.  Visibly results are probably a couple years down the road.

It’s the NFL. Results being “a couple years” down the road is not good enough when there’s multiple teams every year who go from the cellar to the playoffs. 

I’m still waiting for much more time before getting too anxious with the new FO, but to date there’s no doubt that the moves feel Spielman-esque, which is weird. We’ll see what happens the rest of the way. 

Too high of expectations...free agency isn't over yet and the draft not even here yet and already people see it so far as a waste...

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@ArizonaViking said:

@Greylock said:

@JustinTime18™ said:

VikeFans

@VikeFans

·26m

Anthony Barr returning to Minnesota? We hear it is a good possibility - an surprising as he makes too much for this roster unless he is finally going to be used as a pass rush playmaker in a 3-4 defense. Let's see what happens.

If you just crawled out from under a rock you would think Rick was still in charge of the team.  Pretty much inactive in the first two days of free agency.   Extend Cousins contract, then sign a defensive tackle for the third year in a row.  The possible return of Sean Mannion and Anthony Barr.  Somewhere Dakota Dozier is holed up in a Minneapolis hotel room waiting for a call back.  No wonder they say the more things change the more they stay the same.

 What did you really expect?  New management starting out with a blown out of portion cap.  Even with restructured contracts and releasing overpaid players, there's still only limited funds.  This is not an overnight project we're looking at.  Visibly results are probably a couple years down the road.

in the Not For Long league you dont get years to show results,  you need to show a direction change  from a failed direction,  ASAP.  Imagine being in USB next fall and watching the team lose 36 to 32 in a game where the defense had no clue once again,  and the offense had chances but the OL didnt hold up.  That is what people are seeing right now.  I can live with mediocrity or even losing,  but I need to see that i may lead to something.  We've already been on the only a QB away from winning with this roster train.