Kirk in Minnesota long term?

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I hope so. I'm not yet convinced but I do now think a long-term contract is more likely than a trade. But what happens if some team offers the moon? "A man is as faithful as his options" is a great line. And so, so true. 

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He is 33, so what 3 or 4 more years? Are they going to a five year deal with voidable years and restructure money to bonuses to help? I don't know, we'll see I guess. But I still want them developing a qb of the future.

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@Vikergirl said:
He is 33, so what 3 or 4 more years? Are they going to a five year deal with voidable years and restructure money to bonuses to help? I don't know, we'll see I guess. But I still want them developing a qb of the future.

Next year is the draft pool to dip a toe into. There's 4-5 prospects worth a shot. Plus another handful of guys who could jump up a tier.

Patience required.

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@JustinTime18™ said:

@Vikergirl said:
He is 33, so what 3 or 4 more years? Are they going to a five year deal with voidable years and restructure money to bonuses to help? I don't know, we'll see I guess. But I still want them developing a qb of the future.

Next year is the draft pool to dip a toe into. There's 4-5 prospects worth a shot. Plus another handful of guys who could jump up a tier.

Patience required.

Absolutely and I feel much better having different people making the qb pick and developing that qb. 

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@Vikergirl said:
He is 33, so what 3 or 4 more years? Are they going to a five year deal with voidable years and restructure money to bonuses to help? I don't know, we'll see I guess. But I still want them developing a qb of the future.

Dunno, but at 33 age shouldn't be a factor. Remember, the QBs who play a long time (Brady, Favre) tend to be the QBs who avoid injury. Cousins has never missed a game due to injury. He's 11 years younger than Tom Brady. 

So many huge contracts have been given out to QBs who really haven't answered the biggest question: "can he play QB at a high level in the NFL?" So many were just projections. Goff, Wentz, Carr, Foles, Kaepernick, Darnold, Mayfield...

With Cousins, there's no projection. You know exactly what you're going to get. Top 10 QB play. And he's not going to get hurt. That kind of confidence is worth something. 

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@JustinTime18™ said:

@Vikergirl said:
He is 33, so what 3 or 4 more years? Are they going to a five year deal with voidable years and restructure money to bonuses to help? I don't know, we'll see I guess. But I still want them developing a qb of the future.

Next year is the draft pool to dip a toe into. There's 4-5 prospects worth a shot. Plus another handful of guys who could jump up a tier.

Patience required.

And it allows them to spend a year seeing what they can get out of Mond to help them gauge exactly how aggressive they need to get next year.   With that said,   if kc keeps his pattern of demanding top dollar,  I am perfectly fine with a bridge QB or even just rolling with Mond.  If the mindset is to get a QB of the future in the 23 draft regardless,  a poor 22 would give us the best options and if Mond somehow does well enough that we aren't drafting very high...well that is a win as well.

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I'm on the fence because I do like Kirk, but his record is his record and do we want to lock up our cap for the foreseeable future on a 34 year old QB who is not widely considered to be an elite player at his position? Kirk's made a lot of money in his career and we've paid him a lot of money in Minnesota. If he isn't willing to play ball on a reasonable contract restructure then I do believe the best thing to do is trade him and let Kwesi and O'Connell build this roster the way they want with the cap flexibility and draft picks to do so. Like I said in the other thread, if we have to take a step back this season to move forward beyond mediocrity long term, you do it because that's what this entire organizational reboot is about right... moving beyond mediocrity. 

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To me 5 more years of Kirk is not much different than if we were getting 5 more years of Zim, or Rick. If you compare Kirk’s first 4 years in MIN with those 2 guys’ first 4 years in MIN, all 3 experienced some success and had obvious weak spots. Zim and Rick got more time and it didnt pan out. At all. Kirk could be different but I would rather not see this franchise hitch their wagon to that hope. But if they do I’ll root like heck they’re right. 

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I don't see a guy who has coached Cousins for 3 years thinking he is the long term solution for this team.  I would be surprised if he is the starter this year, I think they either make a trade or draft someone in the first round.  

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At 33 Kirk has been durable but with age he becomes more susceptible to injury and who knows, he could hit the wall at 35 or 36 and become a liability.  The guy that plays at a high level into their 40's are the exception and not the norm.  Kirk could also be one of those guys that just says enough is enough and hang it up in his mid 30's for all we know.