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It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
in fairness, in the NFL, how many GMs had nearly as many picks as the Rickster in the last decade? GMs are like coaches and teams tend to swap both out at about the same rate when things arent going well.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
That's an impressive list considering the number of premium picks that RS traded for Day 3 lottery tickets.
Rick was very good at drafting. I am hoping Kwesi can start to approach Spelly's success. So far, not looking great but still early. I hope we see Addison practice
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
in fairness, in the NFL, how many GMs had nearly as many picks as the Rickster in the last decade? GMs are like coaches and teams tend to swap both out at about the same rate when things arent going well.
But acquiring those picks was his own doing. That is kind of like saying: In fairness, Brady should have won so many superbowls, because what other quarterback was in so many superbowls?
Quote: @wiviking said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
in fairness, in the NFL, how many GMs had nearly as many picks as the Rickster in the last decade? GMs are like coaches and teams tend to swap both out at about the same rate when things arent going well.
But acquiring those picks was his own doing. That is kind of like saying: In fairness, Brady should have won so many superbowls, because what other quarterback was in so many superbowls?
point is, how many other GMs were around for that entire time period that is being examined? Rick had that full 10 years, many other teams went through multiple GMS in that same time frame so yes, Rick may have "earned" some of those extra picks, but the patience of the Wilfs is also at play here.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ wiviking said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
in fairness, in the NFL, how many GMs had nearly as many picks as the Rickster in the last decade? GMs are like coaches and teams tend to swap both out at about the same rate when things arent going well.
But acquiring those picks was his own doing. That is kind of like saying: In fairness, Brady should have won so many superbowls, because what other quarterback was in so many superbowls?
point is, how many other GMs were around for that entire time period that is being examined? Rick had that full 10 years, many other teams went through multiple GMS in that same time frame so yes, Rick may have "earned" some of those extra picks, but the patience of the Wilfs is also at play here.
The Vikings won 132 games and played in 9 playoff games in his tenure as GM. He doesn't need to apologize for winning games and staying employed. His winning games was a bigger factor in finding those draft steals then the Wilfs patience in retaining his services as GM. He found more players on that list then teams who turned over their GM position multiple times. Sure there were a few big misses in there (Ponder, Treadwell, Hughes, Gladney) but look at the talent acquired since he became the defacto GM in 2006;
Chad Greenway
Adrian Peterson
Percy Harvin
Harrison Smith
Xavier Rhodes
Anthony Barr
...and he went out with his last two first round picks being Jefferson and Darrisaw (in a trade down).
The guy did his job supplying this roster with talent. That is the #1 job of a general manager. Considering the turnover rate of NFL front offices, and the amount of total misses by most GM's...Rick did a great job here overall.
If you look at the draft objectively--in other words in context with how the rest of the league has drafted over the same time period, you just can't say that Rick was a bad drafter. He was unquestionably one of the better drafting GMs in the NFL. Free agency maybe a little less so. Trading less so as well.
What got him fired, though, was letting the team get out of control with Mike Zimmer. Near the end, they were not even communicating. That's bad management. Both things can be true.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
Rick had plenty of opportunities to build a championship roster. Rick also hired Zimmer, so I guess you lie in the bed you make. He also couldn't draft a QB. He coddled Ponder, his prize, thinking he was the golden ticket. That was a HUGE swing and a miss that set the team back several years.Personally, I'm glad they moved on from Spielman and wanted to start fresh with a new GM and HC.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ wiviking said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's a premium article, but ESPN just released a list of the 50 biggest draft steals of the last decade. The rules were they had to be taken AFTER the first round (no 1st round picks), 2023 not eligible, and the player had to be taken at least 15 selections later then they should have been. Of that list, the Vikings garnered four selections;
7. Stefon Diggs
30. Danielle Hunter
35. Dalvin Cook
49. Brian O’Neill
I think we could safely say Jefferson would probably be #1 overall on that list if they included first round picks and Darrisaw would also be on there somewhere. Not bad for GM who was fired for the head coach turning into an asshole.
in fairness, in the NFL, how many GMs had nearly as many picks as the Rickster in the last decade? GMs are like coaches and teams tend to swap both out at about the same rate when things arent going well.
But acquiring those picks was his own doing. That is kind of like saying: In fairness, Brady should have won so many superbowls, because what other quarterback was in so many superbowls?
point is, how many other GMs were around for that entire time period that is being examined? Rick had that full 10 years, many other teams went through multiple GMS in that same time frame so yes, Rick may have "earned" some of those extra picks, but the patience of the Wilfs is also at play here.
The Vikings won 132 games and played in 9 playoff games in his tenure as GM. He doesn't need to apologize for winning games and staying employed. His winning games was a bigger factor in finding those draft steals then the Wilfs patience in retaining his services as GM. He found more players on that list then teams who turned over their GM position multiple times. Sure there were a few big misses in there (Ponder, Treadwell, Hughes, Gladney) but look at the talent acquired since he became the defacto GM in 2006;
Chad Greenway
Adrian Peterson
Percy Harvin
Harrison Smith
Xavier Rhodes
Anthony Barr
...and he went out with his last two first round picks being Jefferson and Darrisaw (in a trade down).
The guy did his job supplying this roster with talent. That is the #1 job of a general manager. Considering the turnover rate of NFL front offices, and the amount of total misses by most GM's...Rick did a great job here overall.
who is saying anything about him apologizing its a simple numbers game, he was here longer than most GMs and as such had more shots at finding those mid round steals. its not like he was some sort of draft savant that was head and shoulders above his peers, he did a nice job at the draft, but also had his shortcomings, but if you give most people the resources and knowledge he had at his disposal and and decade to do it in, they will likely find a few steals as well.
or all heil Trader Rick, whichever you want. all those accolades and the team still doesnt have shit to show for it, his successes dont outweigh the fact that he never found, or even committed to finding a franchise QB, and only paid attention to OL when it became grossly apparent that his job was going to depend on it. in an offense first, pass first league, he was drafting defense and running backs. In the end he made some good moves, but it was the moves he didnt make that will make him a non story in the Vikings history books.
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