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Troubling Rumor from Tom Moore
#41
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Wetlander said:
@JimmyinSD said:
Makes sense to replace the GM first and then let him determine the coaching situation.   However what concerns me is that I still don't think Zimmer was Rick's pick,  I think that was Parcells influence and this move would make me wonder if he isn't still in their ear and is actually the one running the team.
Why do you say that?  From what I recall, both bonded over being sons of coaches and their love of football.  Obviously any HC pick isn't just the GM's decision, ownership is involved as well, but Spielman seemed all in with Zimmer by the way they talked about each other after he was hired.  Didn't sound like window dressing, seemed genuine.
I always found it too convenient that The Wilfs have always said they use Parcels as a NFL guide at times and that Zimmer had been passed over so many times and when Rick finally gets to hire his own head coach he chooses the guy that the Wilfs mentor has been pimping for so long?  That and I dont really see them as the same type of football guys.   I have my doubts that Rick would be so close minded to developing and utilizing more modern concepts to take advantage of the way the rules have changed.  Zimmer ball seems to still be trying to win the 1995 Superbowl.

I think Rick has learned from Zimmer when it comes to picking players, and he has been complimentary about it.  however I dont know that they are buddies or anything like that.  I just never got the feeling that Zim was Ricks choice.
What is Zimmer ball?  If it's having a strong running game to compliment a play-action passing attack...  you must hate watching the Packers, Rams, Patriots, Ravens, Saints, and 49ers.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Wetlander said:
@JimmyinSD said:
Makes sense to replace the GM first and then let him determine the coaching situation.   However what concerns me is that I still don't think Zimmer was Rick's pick,  I think that was Parcells influence and this move would make me wonder if he isn't still in their ear and is actually the one running the team.
Why do you say that?  From what I recall, both bonded over being sons of coaches and their love of football.  Obviously any HC pick isn't just the GM's decision, ownership is involved as well, but Spielman seemed all in with Zimmer by the way they talked about each other after he was hired.  Didn't sound like window dressing, seemed genuine.
I always found it too convenient that The Wilfs have always said they use Parcels as a NFL guide at times and that Zimmer had been passed over so many times and when Rick finally gets to hire his own head coach he chooses the guy that the Wilfs mentor has been pimping for so long?  That and I dont really see them as the same type of football guys.   I have my doubts that Rick would be so close minded to developing and utilizing more modern concepts to take advantage of the way the rules have changed.  Zimmer ball seems to still be trying to win the 1995 Superbowl.

I think Rick has learned from Zimmer when it comes to picking players, and he has been complimentary about it.  however I dont know that they are buddies or anything like that.  I just never got the feeling that Zim was Ricks choice.
What is Zimmer ball?  If it's having a strong running game to compliment a play-action passing attack...  you must hate watching the Packers, Rams, Patriots, Ravens, Saints, and 49ers.
You forgot the Colts with your list who have the best RB in Football. 
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#42
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Really poor history of game chess
I'm not convinced the trenches are very good on either side
Shameful recent track record with DB's
Coordinator decisions going into 21 were poor in retrospect
I'm not convinced things are harmonious in the locker room
I think you are absolutely right.....Which explains the mass exodus of defense of backs a couple years ago.
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#43
We continue to have our sources tell us that the Wilfs plan to keep either Zimmer or Spielman, but not both, & they don't seem inclined to keep both (no, we won't reveal our source, or we will no longer have a source). The owner worries about money lost if they aren't competitive
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#44
Quote: @JustinTime18™ said:
We continue to have our sources tell us that the Wilfs plan to keep either Zimmer or Spielman, but not both, & they don't seem inclined to keep both (no, we won't reveal our source, or we will no longer have a source). The owner worries about money lost if they aren't competitive
I'm really on the fence about keeping RS or not. 

I dont trust him to find another QB and the OL has been such a shit show for so long. They truly needed to sign a good, veteran OG the last 3 seasons.

OTOH, I think the roster overall has under-performed vs being poor and that imo is coaching. 


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#45
I wonder what Zimmer's contract looks like (other than the numbers). If we must keep him b/c of money, is it possible to demote him to DC and get a new HC? Maybe he'd quit...

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#46
Quote: @JustinTime18™ said:
We continue to have our sources tell us that the Wilfs plan to keep either Zimmer or Spielman, but not both, & they don't seem inclined to keep both (no, we won't reveal our source, or we will no longer have a source). The owner worries about money lost if they aren't competitive

Want to talk about money lost?  Keep this shit on the field. 
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