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OT, vax mandate for federal employees
#11
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@AGRforever said:
Sisters off the deep end.
Open up the concentration camps.No research done on the vaccine.Pfizer making gaggillions of dollars.Am I willing to get a jab every 6 months?
One step away from Waltz declaring himself a dictator of MN. 

My phone is blowing up lol

This woman got SIX MONTHS maternity leave for both my niece and nephew.  Her insurance and retirement are phenomenal.  Short term and long term disability.  My wife thinks theres an 80/20 chance that she'll walk away from her job if required to get the jab. 

Sound's like one of our moderators
Yup, still got that burr in your saddle.  It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
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#12
It makes sense and more to follow I'm sure.
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#13
Quote: @AGRforever said:
Sisters off the deep end.
Open up the concentration camps.No research done on the vaccine.Pfizer making gaggillions of dollars.Am I willing to get a jab every 6 months?
One step away from Waltz declaring himself a dictator of MN. 

My phone is blowing up lol

This woman got SIX MONTHS maternity leave for both my niece and nephew.  Her insurance and retirement are phenomenal.  Short term and long term disability.  My wife thinks theres an 80/20 chance that she'll walk away from her job if required to get the jab. 
Sounds like my sister in law. I've given up trying to figure it out how these people can believe the batshit things they believe. I think it stems from a general mistrust of government combined with too much access to dubious media. They'll say that the mainstream media is lying to us, here's proof, and then post something from a guy who believes in lizard people.

She's not the smartest cookie in the drawer but she does have a college degree. Apparently one that failed to teach critical thinking skills. 
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#14
The expansive rules mandate that all employers with more than 100 workers require them to be vaccinated or test for the virus weekly, affecting about 80 million Americans. And the roughly 17 million workers at health facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated.
Biden is also signing an executive order to require vaccination for employees of the executive branch and contractors who do business with the federal government — with no option to test out. That covers several million more workers.
After months of using promotions to drive the vaccination rate, Biden is taking a much firmer hand, as he aides blamed people who have not yet received shots for the sharp rise in cases that is killing more than 1,000 people per day and imperiling a fragile economic rebound.

In addition to the vaccination requirements, there will be double federal fines for airline passengers who refuse to wear masks on flights or to maintain face covering requirements on federal property in accordance with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines.
The federal government will work to increase the supply of virus tests, and that the White House has secured concessions from retailers including Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger to sell at-home testing kits at cost beginning this week.
The administration was also sending additional federal support to assist schools in safely operating, including additional funding for testing. And Biden will call for large entertainment venues and arenas to require vaccinations or proof of a negative test for entry.
The requirement for large companies to mandate vaccinations or weekly testing for employees will be enacted through a forthcoming rule from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration that carries penalties of $14,000 per violation, an administration official said. The White House did not immediately say when it would take effect, but said workers would have sufficient time to get vaccinated.
The rule would also require that large companies provide paid time off for vaccination.
Meanwhile, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services will extend a vaccination requirement issued earlier this summer — for nursing home staff — to other healthcare settings including hospitals, home-health agencies and dialysis centers.
Separately, the Department of Health and Human Services will require vaccinations in Head Start Programs, as well as schools run by the Department of Defense and Bureau of Indian Education, affecting about 300,000 employees.
Biden's order for executive branch workers and contractors includes exceptions for workers seeking religious or medical exemptions from vaccination, according to Psaki. Federal workers and contractors will have 75 days to get fully vaccinated. Workers who don't comply will be referred to their agencies' human resources departments for counseling and discipline, to include potential termination.
"We would like to be a model" to other organizations and business around country, Psaki said of the federal workforce.
An AP-NORC poll conducted in August found 55% of Americans in favor of requiring government workers to be fully vaccinated, compared with 21% opposed. Similar majorities also backed vaccine mandates for health care workers, teachers working at K-12 schools and workers who interact with the public, as at restaurants and stores.
Biden has encouraged COVID-19 vaccine requirements in settings like schools, workplaces and university campuses, and the White House hopes the strengthened federal mandate will inspire more businesses to follow suit. On Thursday, the Los Angeles Board of Education was expected to vote on requiring all students 12 and older to be fully vaccinated in the the nation's second-largest school district.
Walmart, the nation's largest private employer, said in late July it was requiring that all workers at its headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas, as well as its managers who travel within the U.S. be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Oct. 4. But the company stopped short of requiring shots for its frontline workers.
CVS Health said in late August it would require certain employees who interact with patients to be fully vaccinated by the end of October. That includes nurses, care managers and pharmacists.
In the government, several federal agencies have previously announced vaccine requirements for much of their staffs, particularly those in healthcare roles like the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the Pentagon moved last month to require all servicemembers to get vaccinated. Combined, the White House estimates those requirements cover 2.5 million Americans. Thursday's order is expected to impact nearly 2 million more federal workers and potentially millions of contractors.

https://www.startribune.com/sweeping-new...600095343/

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#15
So the USPS will be exempt from this mandate?  

Can't anyone see the politics behind all this?  
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#16
The postal workers union released a statement that  said “it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.”
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#17
All eligible students attending Los Angeles Unified public schools -- the nation's second largest school district -- will be required to be vaccinated against Covid-19 by the end of the calendar year, the school board of education has voted.In a special meeting held Thursday, the Los Angeles Unified School Board decided by unanimous vote that a mandate was appropriate based on the sudden surge of the virus brought about by the Delta variant and data showing lower rates of infection and hospitalization among those who are vaccinated.
The proposal approved Thursday requires all eligible students 12 years of age and older to receive their first Covid-19 vaccine doses by no later than November 21, and to be fully vaccinated by December 19. Students who participate in in-person extracurricular activities, including sports, face an earlier deadline of October 3 for a first dose of the vaccine and a second dose no later than October 31.
The district, which includes more than 600,000 students, already mandates the vaccine for teachers and staff, requires face coverings be worn by all, and tests all students and staff for infections weekly. Classrooms have also been outfitted with enhanced ventilation systems in an effort to decrease the spread of the virus.
District spokesperson Shannon Haber was not able to provide the number of students affected by Thursday's decision, but noted that many students have already been inoculated.
The mandate will apply to all vaccine eligible students who are attending school in-person and would allow those with "qualified and approved exemptions" to opt out, though the conditions weren't specified. 
Students who decline the vaccine and have no exemptions can participate in the online Independent Study Program. About 15,000 students are currently enrolled in the remote learning program, according to board member Tanya Ortiz Franklin
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/us/los-an...index.html
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#18
And the legal challenges in 3...2....
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#19
Quote: @greediron said:
The postal workers union released a statement that  said “it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.”
Not surprised the unions are piping up, are you? We need the post office like we need another hole in the head, its an antiquated and artificially financially propped up service. Hemorrhaging money like an open geyser. 95% of the crap I get in the mail is garbage. Cut down service to 3 days a week or get rid of this entity entirely after some proper planning for a year or two and nobody would miss it.
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#20
Quote: @greediron said:
The postal workers union released a statement that  said “it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.”
No way?  A union is trying to advocate for some of its employees?
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