Have you have Covid Vaccine yet?

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Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinatedOnly about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%.

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren't vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That's about 0.1%.
And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.
The AP analyzed figures provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.
Among them: Only about 45 states report breakthrough infections, and some are more aggressive than others in looking for such cases. So the data probably understates such infections, CDC officials said.
Still, the overall trend that emerges from the data echoes what many health care authorities are seeing around the country and what top experts are saying.
Earlier this month, Andy Slavitt, a former adviser to the Biden administration on COVID-19, suggested that 98% to 99% of the Americans dying of the coronavirus are unvaccinated.
And CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Tuesday that the vaccine is so effective that "nearly every death, especially among adults, due to COVID-19, is, at this point, entirely preventable." She called such deaths "particularly tragic."
Deaths in the U.S. have plummeted from a peak of more than 3,400 day on average in mid-January, one month into the vaccination drive.
About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC. While vaccine remains scarce in much of the world, the U.S. supply is so abundant and demand has slumped so dramatically that shots sit unused.


https://www.startribune.com/nearly-all-c...fresh=true

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Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson ® on Sunday expressed concern about possible "trouble" ahead for Arkansans if the state did not accelerate its vaccination rate. In Arkansas, about 53 percent of adults have at least one dose of the vaccine, compared with about two-thirds of adults nationally. The state has seen a recent spike in COVID cases and hospitalizations, driven mostly by the delta variant.
"The solution is the vaccinations," Hutchinson said on CNN's "State of the Union," adding that while many of the state's senior citizens have gotten vaccinated, the delta variant was now hitting Arkansas' younger, unvaccinated adults. "It is a great concern."
Hutchinson avoided saying whether he would reimpose mask mandates if the state's numbers did not improve and also stopped short of saying Arkansas was about to experience a third wave of COVID cases and deaths.
However, he did emphasize that the state would continue to make vaccines accessible — including, for example, offering free shots at the state's July Fourth "Pops on the River" celebration on Sunday.
"We are in a race," Hutchinson said. "And if we stopped right here, and we didn't get greater percent of our population vaccinated, then we're going to have trouble in the next school year and over the winter. So, we want to get ahead of that curve. Working very hard to do that."
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll showed 74 percent of people who haven't been vaccinated say they probably or definitely won't get vaccinated — and that the divide fell sharply along party lines. According to the survey, 86 percent of Democrats have received at least one vaccine shot compared with 45 percent of Republicans. Only 6 percent of Democrats said they are not likely to get vaccinated, compared with 47 percent of Republicans, including 38 percent of Republicans overall who said they definitely will not get the vaccine.
Hutchinson alluded to some of that partisan divide Sunday when asked about why it had been so difficult to increase Arkansas' vaccination rate.
"Well, in a rural state, in a conservative state, there is hesitancy. And you're trying to overcome that," Hutchinson said. "We got the early vaccinations out because people were anxious. They were in a very vulnerable population. Our cases went down dramatically. And that slowed the vaccination rate. The urgency diminished. And now it's picking up again."
West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice ® had blunter words Sunday when asked about vaccine hesitancy, particularly among young people, despite the incentives states are offering that include lottery prizes and college scholarships.
"The red states probably have a lot of people that are very, very conservative in their thinking and they think, 'Well, I don't have to do that.' But they're not thinking right," Justice said on ABC's "This Week." The governor has aggressively urged his residents to get vaccinated for months, and West Virginia has been offering everything from college scholarships to free hunting and fishing licenses as incentives.
Despite that, only 52 percent of adults in West Virginia have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine. Justice expressed frustration with the stalled efforts, particularly with getting young people "across the finish line."
"When it really boils right down to it, they're in a lottery to themselves," he said. "We have a lottery that says if you're vaccinated we're going to give you stuff. Well, you've got another lottery for them, and it's a death lottery."
Justice added that he thought the only thing that would compel some holdouts to get vaccinated would be the deaths of friends and family.
"What would put them over the edge is an awful lot of people dying," he said. "The only way it's really going to happen is a catastrophe that none of us want. We just have to keep trying."
On CBS's "Face the Nation," Gov. Spencer Cox (R-Utah) explained that his state's lower vaccination rate was partly the result of having the country's youngest population, adding that adults in Utah are getting vaccinated at the same rate as rest of nation. He called the vaccination gap among Republicans "troubling" and said "hopefully reason will rule."
https://www.startribune.com/gop-govs-peo...600075259/

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Owning the libs....all the way to the grave. 

Even while in a hospital, Harmon was adamant that he would not receive the vaccine, posting he wasn't "anti-vax" but was "pro information."

"i'm not against it, i'm just not in a rush to get it," he wrote in a July 8 Instagram post. "Ironically, as I continue to lay here ... in my covid ward isolation room fighting off the virus and pneumonia."

He added he wouldn't get a vaccine even after recovery.

"Biden's door to door vaccine 'surveyors' really should be called JaCovid Witnesses. #keepmovingdork," Harmon wrote the same day on Twitter.

On Friday, after his death was announced, Harmon's Instagram account was made private.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/24/us/hillso...index.html

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@MaroonBells said:
Owning the libs....all the way to the grave. 

Even while in a hospital, Harmon was adamant that he would not receive the vaccine, posting he wasn't "anti-vax" but was "pro information."

"i'm not against it, i'm just not in a rush to get it," he wrote in a July 8 Instagram post. "Ironically, as I continue to lay here ... in my covid ward isolation room fighting off the virus and pneumonia."

He added he wouldn't get a vaccine even after recovery.

"Biden's door to door vaccine 'surveyors' really should be called JaCovid Witnesses. #keepmovingdork," Harmon wrote the same day on Twitter.

On Friday, after his death was announced, Harmon's Instagram account was made private.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/24/us/hillso...index.html

Too stupid to live. Its what it comes down to. The human race was not advanced because of the ignorant and the stupid, it was advanced on intelligence and foresight. This picture says everything you need to know (I pour one out for my homey, pumpf.....who personifies this mindset). 

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WILMINGTON, Del. — The United States is in an ``unnecessary predicament" of soaring COVID-19 cases fueled by unvaccinated Americans and the virulent delta variant, the nation's top infectious diseases expert said Sunday.``We're going in the wrong direction,'' said Dr. Anthony Fauci, describing himself as ``very frustrated."
He said recommending that the vaccinated wear masks is ``under active consideration'' by the government's leading public health officials. Also, booster shots may be suggested for people with suppressed immune systems who have been vaccinated, Fauci said.
Fauci, who also serves President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser, told CNN's "State of the Union" that he has taken part in conversations about altering the mask guidelines.
He noted that some local jurisdictions where infection rates are surging, such as Los Angeles County, are already calling on individuals to wear masks in public regardless of vaccination status. Fauci said those local rules are compatible with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendation that the vaccinated do not need to wear masks in public.
Nearly 163 million people, or 49% of the eligible U.S. population, are vaccinated, according to CDC data.
"This is an issue predominantly among the unvaccinated, which is the reason why we're out there, practically pleading with the unvaccinated people to go out and get vaccinated," Fauci said.
Fauci said government experts are reviewing early data as they consider whether to recommend that vaccinated individuals to get booster shots. He suggested that some of the most vulnerable, such as organ transplant and cancer patients, are "likely" to be recommended for booster shots.
He also praised Republicans, including Govs. Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas and Ron DeSantis of Florida, and the second-ranking House leader, Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, for encouraging their constituents to get vaccinated. Their states have among the lowest vaccination rates in the country.
"What I would really like to see is more and more of the leaders in those areas that are not vaccinating to get out and speak out and encourage people to get vaccinated," Fauci said.
Hutchinson, also speaking on CNN, said he did not know whether he might have underestimated the hesitancy of people to get the vaccine, but acknowledged that "the resistance has hardened in certain elements and is simply false information. It is myths. As I go into these town hall meetings, someone said: `Don't call it a vaccine. Call it a bioweapon.' And they talk about mind control. Well, those are obviously erroneous. Other members of the community correct that."

Source: Associated Press
July 25, 2021 — 10:50am

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Huntington Beach restaurant urges unvaccinated diners in rebuff of COVID precautions (yahoo.com)

Hannah FryMon, July 26, 2021, 8:00 AM·8 min read

A sign outside Basilico's restaurant in Huntington Beach says patrons must be unvaccinated to enter. (Madeleine Hordinski / Los Angeles Times)

When restaurants across California halted indoor dining as the COVID-19 pandemic took hold in March 2020, Basilico's Pasta e Vino in Huntington Beach continued to welcome patrons.
When officials issued an order for establishments to mandate face coverings to stem the spread of the virus, the Orange County eatery declared itself a mask-free zone and required that diners remove them before entering.
This week, the Italian restaurant issued another decree: Proof of being unvaccinated is required for entry.

Two signs bearing the message were taped to the windows of the restaurant, which is nestled between a gym and a sustainable beauty salon in a small strip mall at Hamilton Avenue and Brookhurst Street.
"We have zero tolerance for treasonous, anti-American stupidity," the signs read.


More at link above.

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I don't know where to come down on the vax or not to vax argument. There are good points on both sides. Sometimes the only thing left to do is weigh the merit of each argument based on the credibility of the person presenting it. 

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/statu...75971?s=20

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@MaroonBells said:
I don't know where to come down on the vax or not to vax argument. There are good points on both sides. Sometimes the only thing left to do is weigh the merit of each argument based on the credibility of the person presenting it. 

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/statu...75971?s=20

Good God MB.  

The guy's a nut...the magnet lady's a nut....oK?  That what you want to hear? 

Why not take a deep dive into Dr. Robert Malone?  If you want to stimulate discussion?  

https://www.youtube.com/w
atch?v=Du2wm5nhTXY&t=534s





Here's the anti-Malone take.  

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...ic/619734/


I know where I fall....but reducing the anti-vax argument to idiot caricatures accomplishes what? 

There is a decent anti-vax argument (I don't agree with) but promoting your POV via these posts does NOTHING to advance your cause.  

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Besides, MikeOlson (admin) posted earlier he will not tolerate Co-Vid/vax mis-information posted on this site, henceforth.  (Forthwith?)

 Your post above is nothing, but mis-info, yes?  That's why you posted it, yes?