Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
This is a pivotal year for our pivot. I think with a better surround he should improve. I don't, however, think he's "in bust territory." I compare him to our last bust at the position, Pat Elflein. Whereas Elflein did nothing particularly impressive, Bradbury does frequently. Unlike Elflein, you see Bradbury's speed and athleticism show up big on reach and 2nd level blocks in the run game. We'll see if another year of development, and putting better guards around him, leads to more consistent pass pro numbers.
I'd say O'Neill's outlook is pretty accurate. He seems to me right in the middle of all tackles and in the top third among right tackles. I'm good with that considering he's still very young. The whole line is easily the NFL's youngest, and should improve dramatically over the next couple years.
If Bradbury cant find an anchor in Pass Pro IMO he is very much on the same track as Elf, athletic but just to light in the ass to play IOL in the NFL. We need our IOL to be able to get a push in short yardage runs and to set the front of the pocket on pass plays, Bradbury has never shown either with enough consistency to be much more than a hold your breath and hope type of pick.
I keep hearing that Elflein was athletic. Been hearing that since he was drafted and I don't know where it comes from. He was not athletic in the least. Not even in Bradbury's universe when it comes to strength and athleticism (see numbers below). Nor did Elf ever make the wow plays that Bradbury frequently does. But yeah, it's obvious Bradbury has to improve his pass pro. But for him, I'd say it's less about anchor and more about technique.
40 - Elf 5.3, Brad 4.9
Bench - Elf 22, Brad 34
Vert - Elf 23, Brad 31
his rookie year Elf was able to get out on screens and sweeps and block downfield, he was able to get off double teams and get on a LB at the next level. somethings we had been missing with Birk and Sullivan and others so in comparison to them he was more athletic.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
This is a pivotal year for our pivot. I think with a better surround he should improve. I don't, however, think he's "in bust territory." I compare him to our last bust at the position, Pat Elflein. Whereas Elflein did nothing particularly impressive, Bradbury does frequently. Unlike Elflein, you see Bradbury's speed and athleticism show up big on reach and 2nd level blocks in the run game. We'll see if another year of development, and putting better guards around him, leads to more consistent pass pro numbers.
I'd say O'Neill's outlook is pretty accurate. He seems to me right in the middle of all tackles and in the top third among right tackles. I'm good with that considering he's still very young. The whole line is easily the NFL's youngest, and should improve dramatically over the next couple years.
If Bradbury cant find an anchor in Pass Pro IMO he is very much on the same track as Elf, athletic but just to light in the ass to play IOL in the NFL. We need our IOL to be able to get a push in short yardage runs and to set the front of the pocket on pass plays, Bradbury has never shown either with enough consistency to be much more than a hold your breath and hope type of pick.
I keep hearing that Elflein was athletic. Been hearing that since he was drafted and I don't know where it comes from. He was not athletic in the least. Not even in Bradbury's universe when it comes to strength and athleticism (see numbers below). Nor did Elf ever make the wow plays that Bradbury frequently does. But yeah, it's obvious Bradbury has to improve his pass pro. But for him, I'd say it's less about anchor and more about technique.
40 - Elf 5.3, Brad 4.9
Bench - Elf 22, Brad 34
Vert - Elf 23, Brad 31
his rookie year Elf was able to get out on screens and sweeps and block downfield, he was able to get off double teams and get on a LB at the next level. somethings we had been missing with Birk and Sullivan and others so in comparison to them he was more athletic.
OK.
Elf is a center in a mostly power scheme. In pass pro and in space he gets off balance a lot causing him to get sideways or stumble. He wins against many true 1 gaps in pass pro and the league knows that is what he is best at
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