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We got Greg Joseph and some guy named Riley Patterson competing for the kicker spot.
Andrew Depaola and Turner Bernard competing for Long Snapper. I am guessing Colquitt will hold.
I like the defensive additions and the draft but how many games with great teams have we lost over the years because we cant get the kicker situation fixed?
We can have a top ten defense and offense and have our special teams kill us again this year and lose big games.
Add to that a coach in his first year as head of Special Teams and it is not looking good.
Dan Bailey came here as the most accurate kicker in NFL history IIRC.
That went well.
Veteran, draft pick, dudes off the street, the Vikings have shown for years they can F up the kicking game any way imaginable.
It's worrisome, but it's always worrisome. And not just on our team. Teams either have a star at kicker or they're scrambling like we are.
Joseph has bounced around a few teams but he's been close to sticking each time. His numbers look pretty good. Riley was generally considered the 2nd best kicker in the draft. He wasn't drafted but most thought he would be. So it should be a legit battle. My money's on Joseph though.
Mostly, we can't let Zimmer get in their heads. His overreaction to Carlson is why we don't have one of the best young kickers in the league right now. Raiders just tendered Carlson at the 2nd round. That tells you what they think of him.
Well, it is the Raiders...
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
It's worrisome, but it's always worrisome. And not just on our team. Teams either have a star at kicker or they're scrambling like we are.
Joseph has bounced around a few teams but he's been close to sticking each time. His numbers look pretty good. Riley was generally considered the 2nd best kicker in the draft. He wasn't drafted but most thought he would be. So it should be a legit battle. My money's on Joseph though.
Mostly, we can't let Zimmer get in their heads. His overreaction to Carlson is why we don't have one of the best young kickers in the league right now. Raiders just tendered Carlson at the 2nd round. That tells you what they think of him.
The wilfs should spend another few million and build a kicker training center that is way the fuck out in st cloud, the only time our stable of kickers comes to the cities is on game days and travel days, once they are in another city they need to be kept in a separate hotel from Zimmer....as little contact as possible from the PK Killer, or maybe the Extra Point Assassin?
Screw it, just dont kick. Other than kickoffs, dont kick. You gotta risk it to get the biscuit, right?
Quote: Mostly, we can't let Zimmer get in their heads. His overreaction to Carlson is why we don't have one of the best young kickers in the league right now. Raiders just tendered Carlson at the 2nd round. That tells you what they think of him.
Uh, the kicker's job is to make FGs and Carlson missed two from like 45 or 48 yards and then completely choked on a 35 FG to win the game in OT.
I find it funny that we keep seeing comments about "can't let Zimmer get in their head"... if the guy is that mentally weak he shouldn't be kicking in the NFL. As you said, kickers around the league have good and bad seasons and bounce around from team to team. Are all these other head coaches getting in their kickers heads?
Bottom line, there is no guarantee that if Carlson stayed here, he would have had success. It's time to move on from it.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
Mostly, we can't let Zimmer get in their heads. His overreaction to Carlson is why we don't have one of the best young kickers in the league right now. Raiders just tendered Carlson at the 2nd round. That tells you what they think of him.
Uh, the kicker's job is to make FGs and Carlson missed two from like 45 or 48 yards and then completely choked on a 35 FG to win the game in OT.
I find it funny that we keep seeing comments about "can't let Zimmer get in their head"... if the guy is that mentally weak he shouldn't be kicking in the NFL. As you said, kickers around the league have good and bad seasons and bounce around from team to team. Are all these other head coaches getting in their kickers heads?
Bottom line, there is no guarantee that if Carlson stayed here, he would have had success. It's time to move on from it.
Sure, you'd love your 21 year old rookie kicker to come in to the NFL with all the mental toughness of Dan Campbell, starting down Zimmer and eating kneecaps and all that, but the truth is they rarely do.
Yes, cutting him was understandable. I think all of us were pissed at the kid, but looking back, cooler heads should've prevailed. And I'd be saying that now if I were the one who made the decision. Lesson learned, right? Hopefully.
Carlson was a draft pick. The best kicker in the 2018 draft. A pick we traded up for. He should've been given a little more rope, because clearly there was nothing fundamentally wrong with him. He's been nothing short of amazing in Raiderville.
Who knows the root of our kicker woes. But if I'm looking for suspects, I start in Mike's office.
"We don’t have a proven kicker"
...we've said, throughout this century....
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Wetlander said:
Mostly, we can't let Zimmer get in their heads. His overreaction to Carlson is why we don't have one of the best young kickers in the league right now. Raiders just tendered Carlson at the 2nd round. That tells you what they think of him.
Uh, the kicker's job is to make FGs and Carlson missed two from like 45 or 48 yards and then completely choked on a 35 FG to win the game in OT.
I find it funny that we keep seeing comments about "can't let Zimmer get in their head"... if the guy is that mentally weak he shouldn't be kicking in the NFL. As you said, kickers around the league have good and bad seasons and bounce around from team to team. Are all these other head coaches getting in their kickers heads?
Bottom line, there is no guarantee that if Carlson stayed here, he would have had success. It's time to move on from it.
Sure, you'd love your 21 year old rookie kicker to come in to the NFL with all the mental toughness of Dan Campbell, starting down Zimmer and eating kneecaps and all that, but the truth is they rarely do.
Yes, cutting him was understandable. I think all of us were pissed at the kid, but looking back, cooler heads should've prevailed. And I'd be saying that now if I were the one who made the decision. Lesson learned, right? Hopefully.
Carlson was a draft pick. The best kicker in the 2018 draft. A pick we traded up for. He should've been given a little more rope, because clearly there was nothing fundamentally wrong with him. He's been nothing short of amazing in Raiderville.
Who knows the root of our kicker woes. But if I'm looking for suspects, I start in Mike's office.
We've changed every aspect of the kicker woes in Minnesota except the coach, maybe it's just a string of shit kickers, or maybe the coach needs to learn that they aren't linebackers.
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