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#11
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 


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#12
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
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Sewell puts the OL on a different level. I think Uncle Gil compared him to Ogden. I see Anthony Munoz. Regardless, if the Bengals pass, and I think they will, you Do It.

Last year Joe Burrough lobbied for tagging AJ Green. This year I believe he's doing the same for Chase. 

Take a big swing, Rick. Or at least pick up the phone when I call.
Don't get me wrong, Sewell would be a sweet get,  but considering he would be replacing the best piece of our OL from last year I dont see him, especially as a rookie,   being that huge of an upgrade and really moving the needle that much,  at least not as much as a top tier OG would make over Doziers play.

2 firsts and a 3rd is a lot for an OLman,  even for one that is supposed to be a generational type for his position.  How much better will he be over what will be available at 14 or even for a smaller jump up to say 10?
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#13
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 


Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
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Sewell puts the OL on a different level. I think Uncle Gil compared him to Ogden. I see Anthony Munoz. Regardless, if the Bengals pass, and I think they will, you Do It.

Last year Joe Burrough lobbied for tagging AJ Green. This year I believe he's doing the same for Chase. 

Take a big swing, Rick. Or at least pick up the phone when I call.
Don't get me wrong, Sewell would be a sweet get,  but considering he would be replacing the best piece of our OL from last year I dont see him, especially as a rookie,   being that huge of an upgrade and really moving the needle that much,  at least not as much as a top tier OG would make over Doziers play.

2 firsts and a 3rd is a lot for an OLman,  even for one that is supposed to be a generational type for his position.  How much better will he be over what will be available at 14 or even for a smaller jump up to say 10?
I have a feeling, dispite the recently signed extension, Rick might have received a mandate to make a deep playoff run. There's one player available in this draft worth spending additional draft capital on. Sewell makes the entire O better. 

Sewell will need a beat to get maximum impact, but the day 1 effect will be palpable.
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#14
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 


Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
[Image: n4641en1agvv.gif]

Sewell puts the OL on a different level. I think Uncle Gil compared him to Ogden. I see Anthony Munoz. Regardless, if the Bengals pass, and I think they will, you Do It.

Last year Joe Burrough lobbied for tagging AJ Green. This year I believe he's doing the same for Chase. 

Take a big swing, Rick. Or at least pick up the phone when I call.
Don't get me wrong, Sewell would be a sweet get,  but considering he would be replacing the best piece of our OL from last year I dont see him, especially as a rookie,   being that huge of an upgrade and really moving the needle that much,  at least not as much as a top tier OG would make over Doziers play.

2 firsts and a 3rd is a lot for an OLman,  even for one that is supposed to be a generational type for his position.  How much better will he be over what will be available at 14 or even for a smaller jump up to say 10?
I have a feeling, dispite the recently signed extension, Rick might have received a mandate to make a deep playoff run. There's one player available in this draft worth spending additional draft capital on. Sewell makes the entire O better. 

Sewell will need a beat to get maximum impact, but the day 1 effect will be palpable.
No doubt...would love to have him. But the result you see from Sewell would also happen with Slater...and maybe even Darrisaw and AVT. 

I'm really close to moving over to DJ's Team Slater. Watched more of him earlier this week and, oh my, his movement skills are special. And while it's not likely, there's a middling chance he's available at 14...or at least within cheaper trade range--say, 10-12. 


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#15
One week to go and end all the speculations and get revved up for the new season... 
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#16
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 


Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
[Image: n4641en1agvv.gif]

Sewell puts the OL on a different level. I think Uncle Gil compared him to Ogden. I see Anthony Munoz. Regardless, if the Bengals pass, and I think they will, you Do It.

Last year Joe Burrough lobbied for tagging AJ Green. This year I believe he's doing the same for Chase. 

Take a big swing, Rick. Or at least pick up the phone when I call.
Don't get me wrong, Sewell would be a sweet get,  but considering he would be replacing the best piece of our OL from last year I dont see him, especially as a rookie,   being that huge of an upgrade and really moving the needle that much,  at least not as much as a top tier OG would make over Doziers play.

2 firsts and a 3rd is a lot for an OLman,  even for one that is supposed to be a generational type for his position.  How much better will he be over what will be available at 14 or even for a smaller jump up to say 10?
I have a feeling, dispite the recently signed extension, Rick might have received a mandate to make a deep playoff run. There's one player available in this draft worth spending additional draft capital on. Sewell makes the entire O better. 

Sewell will need a beat to get maximum impact, but the day 1 effect will be palpable.
No doubt...would love to have him. But the result you see from Sewell would also happen with Slater...and maybe even Darrisaw and AVT. 

I'm really close to moving over to DJ's Team Slater. Watched more of him earlier this week and, oh my, his movement skills are special. And while it's not likely, there's a middling chance he's available at 14...or at least within cheaper trade range--say, 10-12. 


I view Sewell like Q Nelson. Slater at #10 would be palatable, but no where near the upside, imo.
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#18
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 



Slater wont be there at #14.  To get him you're probably going to have giving up your 2nd next year in a small move up. 

So hypothetically:
Sewell's cost would be '21 #1, '22 #1 '21 or '22 3rdSlater's cost would be '21 #1, '22 #2 and probably a lower pick this yearDarrisaw might not even be there at #14 but I wouldn't trade up for him.AVT, if you draft him, either he or Cleveland need to play LT or you need to go sign one left on the FA market. 

I don't have a dang clue what the right move would be.  Our offense doesn't stand a chance if we can't figure out how to block people.  One thing I'd say about "once in a generation" talent is that Kalil was supposed to be good and Bradbury was supposed to be one of the best centers in several years.  Kalil was a train wreck and Bradbury while serviceable hasn't exactly been a barn burner. 
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#19
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
*Rick Spielman enters the chat.
Spielman would undoubtedly have the ammo to spice up the deal for the Dolphins. Toss in an extra third on top of the 2022 first, along with some other minor details, and it could be enough sugar to sweeten the deal. 
Suppose the Vikings were able to pull it off. That would probably be worth it. Slick Rick is more than capable of maneuvering the board once again to climb back up to ten picks. The only loss here is the 2022 first-round pick.
Ahh, good ol’ opportunity costs. 
Moving up to six would put the Vikings in A1 position for a blue-chip player. They could have their choice of either: Fields, Lance, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, or Chase. Depending on how the board shakes up and what the Falcons and Bengals decide to do.
This could be further waned to either Sewell, Fields, or Lance if the situation were to commence. 
Wolfson also reported a day ago that if the Vikings were to trade-up, it is most likely for Sewell, but Lance would be 2nd. 
Adding the 20-year-old stalwart left tackle, Penei Sewell, would jump-start the offensive line that takes form like this in week one:
(LT) Penei Sewell, (LG) Mason Cole / FA signing, © Garrett Bradbury, (RG) Ezra Cleveland, (RT) Brian O’Neill. 
Checkmate. 
Would we be willing to give up a 1st next year to get Sewell? Man, i don't think so. I'd be just as happy with Slater. And Darrisaw or AVT aren't exactly parting gifts. And the last two likely won't cost any draft capital. 

Guy says "only loss is the 22 1st round pick." Well that's a pretty big loss, considering we don't have a 3rd or 4th next year. 



Slater wont be there at #14.  To get him you're probably going to have giving up your 2nd next year in a small move up. 

So hypothetically:
Sewell's cost would be '21 #1, '22 #1 '21 or '22 3rdSlater's cost would be '21 #1, '22 #2 and probably a lower pick this yearDarrisaw might not even be there at #14 but I wouldn't trade up for him.AVT, if you draft him, either he or Cleveland need to play LT or you need to go sign one left on the FA market. 

I don't have a dang clue what the right move would be.  Our offense doesn't stand a chance if we can't figure out how to block people.  One thing I'd say about "once in a generation" talent is that Kalil was supposed to be good and Bradbury was supposed to be one of the best centers in several years.  Kalil was a train wreck and Bradbury while serviceable hasn't exactly been a barn burner. 
Let's get a LG next to Bradbury who isn't steaming dog shit and see what he can do. Excellent run blocker, really struggles with power guys. 
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#20
Follow up,
If they traded their '21 #1, '22 #1 and '22 #3 for Lance would heads explode? 
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