Uncle Gil "This Is One F'ed Up Draft"

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@"BarrNone55" said:

@supafreak84 said:

@MaroonBells said:

@supafreak84 said:

@AGRforever said:
Jaelen Phillips is a time bomb. The doctors told him to retire as soon as 2018. I’d rather we draft CBs 1,3,3 then draft him. 

According to Jim Mora Jr, his leaving UCLA had more to do with other factors surrounding the program then injuries. 

JMO but all these edge guys are a gamble of some type. If I'm rolling the dice I'm going with the guy who is hands down the best talent in Phillips, over a guy like Kwity Paye who at best looks like an average edge at the next level. 

I don't agree on Paye. I think he's the 2nd best edge in the draft after Phillips. Phillips may be worth the gamble. He'd be a very exciting/scary pick. It would be one thing if he were the only worthwhile player available where we pick, but the calculation will be is he worth the gamble when there are other very good edges in that area (not to mention OLs) that don't come with the same risk. Whoever takes him will have to have done their homework. 

I just don't see it with Paye. There's just not a lot of production and what is there is a lot of coverage/garbage time sacks. Not a lot of game altering type plays. Frame-wise he isnt what Zimmer necessarily wants at the position (ideally). 

26% rush win rate. Might be one of those guys who needs to learn how to finish. Or, he's just another Udeze. 

That's kind of along the lines I envision him as. 

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@"BarrNone55" said:

@supafreak84 said:
I think the Vikings are going edge with their first round pick and if it's not Phillips I'd be very surprised 

I'd feel better about this risk if Hunter was 100%. It's a crap shoot, but why not mitigate as much risk as possible? If someone asked me to point out an edge defender who won't see a second contract, I pick Phillips. If someone asked me who is most likely to succeed, I'd also say Phillips.

The biggest number I wanted to see was the 10 yard split for Rousseau. He smoked the field. If I can trade back with Washington and still land him and follow that up with a guy like Brown or Cosmi in the second, I'm a happy man.

I still like Rousseau and would take him over Paye. Like we have discussed, you can just move him everywhere along the line and his length and frame is unique. 

Like I've said, Mike Zimmer is going to do things his way, and if he's going out it sure as he'll isnt going to be because his defense was lacking on the heels of "the worst defense he's ever coached." Even with our sub par offensive line last year we still fielded a top offense. Look for the pick at #14 to be a pass rusher or a pass rusher in a trade down 

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All of the DE's have question marks which is why I wouldn't take any of them at 14. There are some great Edge prospects that will be available in the 2nd and 3rd round that will not be much of a drop off IMO. It's a weak prospect pool this year so why would you overdraft in the first round when there will be better players at other positions available at 14.   

Having said all that, I'm not the one making the decision which brings up a question I have about this year's draft. If Spielman is fighting for his job, is he going to be influenced by Zimmer and pick who Zimmer wants, or is he going to stay true to his process and pick who he wants? After all these years, I still don't have any idea what Rick wants unless he's a player from Notre Dame. Maybe that means we trade down to the end of the first and take Eichenberg or Owusu-Koramoah? Hopefully he comes to his senses and figures out he needs to get the Oline fixed.