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@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
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@ Nichelle said:
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened.
I am not sure what you say was proven. No one said he was not involved in armed robbery. Again go back and read. I actually provided proof that he did take part in an armed robbery but did not point a gun at a pregnant woman.
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
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Using the line of reasoning found on this thread, I will not be surprised to hear that Daunte Wright died because his car crashed into another car not because he was shot.
Also in "their" line of reasoning the officer was not not at fault because the officer mistakenly pulled a gun instead of the taser that was intended.
To conclude, Daunte was "justifiably" shot because he was resisting arrest and tried getting back in his car so it is his fault.
The officer went above and beyond announcing an intent to taser him and killing him is a not an issue given Daunte had an outstanding warrant.
The length some people would go to is just mind boggling.
Poor poor Daunte tried running from the police because he had a warrant out for his arrest. Had he not tried re-entering his car to run from law enforcement he would have never been in that situation to begin with.
We had a mother and 2 children killed by some asshat who ran from police and crashed through an intersection less then a 1/4 mile from where I work. I wish the cops would have shot him before he ran. I wish the cops would have shot him while running. I wish there would have been an "accidental discharge" several times into the piece of shit at the scene who killed those innocent kids and their mom. There is a husband and a infant left behind because someone ran from a warrant here. Fuck those who think they can outrun the police because they saw it on a video game or movie.
So you're damn right I don't have an issue.
Question, Will there be 10 televised funerals and a golden coffin for Daunte?
At the bold: Stupidity + childishness provides an interesting display of shallow thinking. It's a joy to see it on display free of charge.
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
or maybe the initial reports were so far out of field goal range the new information still makes it an unlikely kick. how about the fact that womans 1 year old daughter was home at the time of the robbery, does that make it less humane, or does once the baby is out of the womb its more humanely acceptable to point the gun at the mother?
The "initial" reports you claim were never valid. They were debunked the moment they surfaced but people like some here did not bother pushing the narrative. Now you want to claim they were assumed correct from the beginning. They have and always been debunked but people who were interested in spreading the falsehood did not care. On a bigger picture, the trial was about Chauvin kneeling on a person who subsequently died. But I will let you guys continue distracting from the real issue.
No one said the robbery was not a terrible idea. The fact that the baby/anybody was home compounds it... yes.
But you know what is worse?....Someone gasping for air and pleading to breathe and a police officer continues to deprive him of air for over 6 minutes.
But judging by the standards here, depriving someone of air resulting to his death is OK because the person gasping for air committed a robbery so does not deserve to breathe.
George F did not kill a person, Chauvin's reckless actions led to a persons death but I will leave you two continue to tell us how inhumane Floyd is while giving all sorts of excuses to rationalize what Chauvin did.
Lastly when you have to resort to "or maybe.." then you really don't have an argument
I have read most of this shit on here from the beginning and I didnt see evidence presented countering the gun to pregnant belly until recently, so yes to those that saw that reported here and other places they were valid in any opinion being formed.
and Chauvins action dont erase Floyds past transgressions any more than Floyds past makes Chauvins actions ok. nobody is making that point.
Oh so now it is up to other people to present proof of falsehood? How about checking before posting. The people that were pushing the pregnancy claim did not bother checking nor listening when told it was false so please don't use ignorance as a defense because it is not.
As to your second point no one (at least I am not) is saying Floyd was a Saint (except AG and co). Floyds past has nothing to do with Chauvin's actions that fatal day. That is a weak narrative to defend Chauvin's actions. It has been said many a time that Floyd was far from a saint but that had nothing with him being killed. The killing was reckless. So lets talk about that. A cop killed a person. What that person did 13 years ago is irrelevant
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Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened. But yes I am the one moving the goal post
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
No, you and Nichelle tried to claim that all the stuff about Floyd was memes and lies.
AGR showed a link that the armed robbery and putting a gun to her was true. Now you want to make it about AGR's opinion of people even though he admitted and retracted part of the statement when proven wrong. You haven't retracted any of your statements. My comment about being frauds stands.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ Nichelle said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
Using the line of reasoning found on this thread, I will not be surprised to hear that Daunte Wright died because his car crashed into another car not because he was shot.
Also in "their" line of reasoning the officer was not not at fault because the officer mistakenly pulled a gun instead of the taser that was intended.
To conclude, Daunte was "justifiably" shot because he was resisting arrest and tried getting back in his car so it is his fault.
The officer went above and beyond announcing an intent to taser him and killing him is a not an issue given Daunte had an outstanding warrant.
The length some people would go to is just mind boggling.
Poor poor Daunte tried running from the police because he had a warrant out for his arrest. Had he not tried re-entering his car to run from law enforcement he would have never been in that situation to begin with.
We had a mother and 2 children killed by some asshat who ran from police and crashed through an intersection less then a 1/4 mile from where I work. I wish the cops would have shot him before he ran. I wish the cops would have shot him while running. I wish there would have been an "accidental discharge" several times into the piece of shit at the scene who killed those innocent kids and their mom. There is a husband and a infant left behind because someone ran from a warrant here. Fuck those who think they can outrun the police because they saw it on a video game or movie.
So you're damn right I don't have an issue.
Question, Will there be 10 televised funerals and a golden coffin for Daunte?
At the bold: Stupidity + childishness provides an interesting display of shallow thinking. It's a joy to see it on display free of charge.
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
I've never wanted to go down this rabbit hole, because it should not have mattered on that fateful day. Just for clarification there is no documentation I have found of him holding a gun to a woman's womb other than internet memes and Candace Owens videos.
Even if you read the police report from that incident, there is no commentary about a pregnant woman. And there is nothing in court records.
Where did you get that? Is he human now?
Here is a link that disproves the pregnancy claim.
But why rely on facts when lies to make a baseless claim would do and fit a narrative better.
Quote:A meme misrepresents a 2007 criminal case in Houston involving George Floyd. The meme distorts the details of Floyd’s case and includes a photo of a woman who was badly injured in an unrelated attack in Spain in 2018.
@greediron
Here is the post I made to disprove the pregnancy claim. Note I clearly stated pregnancy claim.
From the article I posted
Quote:Floyd pleaded guilty in 2009 to aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. He was not charged with kidnapping or assault.
So how would I say something is a lie and then post a link to a story that says its true. As you can see, your claim just doesn't make any sense
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@ mblack said:
@ greediron said:
@ mblack said:
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened. But yes I am the one moving the goal post
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
No, you and Nichelle tried to claim that all the stuff about Floyd was memes and lies.
AGR showed a link that the armed robbery and putting a gun to her was true. Now you want to make it about AGR's opinion of people even though he admitted and retracted part of the statement when proven wrong. You haven't retracted any of your statements. My comment about being frauds stands.
Feel free to correct your post. I made the initial post to disprove the pregnancy claim. The link in my post talks about the armed robbery. So no. Neither Nichelle nor myself said he did not commit armed robbery.
AG's post actually confirmed what I said... that he did not point a gun to a pregnant woman. AG further admitted that and retracting that part then provided a link (which did not have the pregnancy claim). That was the reason of my post where I stated
"Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground"
Clearly you jumped in without grasping the issue under discussion like I said earlier.
Given it is clear you are wrong and had no idea what you were talking about, I however expect you to continue arguing and making false generalizations - it's what you do
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@ mblack said:
@ greediron said:
@ mblack said:
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened. But yes I am the one moving the goal post
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
No, you and Nichelle tried to claim that all the stuff about Floyd was memes and lies.
AGR showed a link that the armed robbery and putting a gun to her was true. Now you want to make it about AGR's opinion of people even though he admitted and retracted part of the statement when proven wrong. You haven't retracted any of your statements. My comment about being frauds stands.
As @mblack states, that's actually not what happened here. Please re-read my post for reference. To be clear, I challenged the internet rumor that he pointed a gun at a pregnant woman's womb.
Take a minute. Take a breath. And read what I posted.
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@ greediron said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened.
I am not sure what you say was proven. No one said he was not involved in armed robbery. Again go back and read. I actually provided proof that he did take part in an armed robbery but did not point a gun at a pregnant woman.
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
Actually I provided the incident report. You said she wasnt pregnant. I went and looked. Admited my fault.
But that has nothing to do with moving goalposts. The dude was a shit stain before and after he was put on the pedistal.
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@ mblack said:
@ greediron said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened.
I am not sure what you say was proven. No one said he was not involved in armed robbery. Again go back and read. I actually provided proof that he did take part in an armed robbery but did not point a gun at a pregnant woman.
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
Actually I provided the incident report. You said she wasnt pregnant. I went and looked. Admited my fault.
But that has nothing to do with moving goalposts. The dude was a shit stain before and after he was put on the pedistal.
@greediron: Read the part in red. (AG provided the incident report AFTER I had provided a link with the story. His incident report merely confirmed the story in the link I provided)
@AGRforever : "Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human." This did not happen so your statement is false.
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@ mblack said:
@ greediron said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ mblack said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
Youre welcome to choose your heros. I’ll pick ones who dont hold pregnant women at gun point while they burglarize them.
You should stop. I have not seen a single person on this board call George Floyd a hero other than in accusatory posts. He's not a hero. But, he was a human being. And so was Daunte Wright.
Just for clarification someone who holds a gun to a pregnant womans womb isnt human.
Just for clarification...
Someone who spreads baseless claims about a dead person to score cheap points on a message board has no conscience, no decency nor respect for humans.
I actually never saw the meme. Only “reports”. Ill retract the pregnate claim since the incident report doesnt specify. The rest is true. Here is the incident report.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/34242985.pdf
So is he now a human in your eyes since he did not hold a gun to a pregnant woman's womb?
The guy held a gun to a pregnant womans womb a woman at gun point while his buddies robbed her. My opinion on his humanity hasnt changed.
Correct. You just changed how you form your opinion. Keep moving the goal post to try and push an unfounded moral high ground
And you are the one moving the goal posts. What about the victim. It was just proven he was guilty of armed robbery. If you want to go down the gaslighting route, I guess that is okay with you?
Have seen some other pretty horrific claims about what he did to her as well. Not sure of the veracity, but they supposedly came from the victim. If he is capable of holding her at gun point over drugs and money, the rest isn't that far off.
So get off your high horse. It turned out to be a fraud.
If you are going to join a dance at least know what music is playing. AG made a claim and admitted his original claim changed and retracted yet I am the one moving the post. So now we are projecting what he could do I see. Like has been stated the incident happened 13 years ago and is not documented how many here claimed happened.
I am not sure what you say was proven. No one said he was not involved in armed robbery. Again go back and read. I actually provided proof that he did take part in an armed robbery but did not point a gun at a pregnant woman.
All what you are struggling too hard to sell has nothing to do with the trial. You should know what you are defending before you start typing.
Actually I provided the incident report. You said she wasnt pregnant. I went and looked. Admited my fault.
But that has nothing to do with moving goalposts. The dude was a shit stain before and after he was put on the pedistal.
What F-ing pedestal? That's your assertion, this is about a cop using excessive force and killing someone in a very gruesome manor. The rest is just your trying to justify the "officers" actions to be consistent with your values.
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