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*JimmyinSD* · 03-30-2021, 03:30 PM

Does Guru or anybody know if we have an offer on the table for Wilson? I see he is still out there and I am quietly hoping that we can get him to agree to a 1 year deal and then give him a better/longer offer once Barr has moved on. Of course they go that anyway and just back load the shit out of the deal, but I am curious whats going on with Wilson.

03-30-2021, 07:15 PM

I figured he was going to get a good contract in FA, so seeing him still available is surprising.

03-30-2021, 07:25 PM

Gee, wonder why he is still available?

03-30-2021, 07:31 PM

As some of us here have stated he is just not as good as his flash plays make him look, he gives up too many big plays by not being able to shed blocks or be where he is always supposed to be.

03-30-2021, 07:39 PM

Wilson rated high in pass coverage and very, very low against the run...too high a percentage of missed tackles...

03-30-2021, 07:43 PM

Quote: @rf54 said:
As some of us here have stated he is just not as good as his flash plays make him look, he gives up too many big plays by not being able to shed blocks or be where he is always supposed to be.

Barr looked less than impressive in 19 when he didnt have quality DT play in front of him either. This year with improved DTs Barr should return to form, but he still wont have the splash plays that Wilson made in 1 year with the worst DL in front of him than we have seen from the Vikings in about a decade.

If Wilson is willing to play for half the money that Barr thinks he is worth and is able to play a the same level he showed last year (he wont see the OL on him in run plays like he saw with no DT help in 20) he should be plenty good enough at that position, and possibly even an improvement over Barr, while freeing up cap to pay Hunter the assload he is wanting.

03-30-2021, 07:44 PM

He's Audie Cole 2.0. Knack for making big plays but can't count on him. Poor gap discipline, misses assignments and tackles. Still, probably the best WLB we've had the last couple years. Also good depth. But not worth the big money that PFF was projecting. And not a viable long-term replacement for Barr IMO.

03-30-2021, 07:55 PM

Quote: @MaroonBells said:
He's Audie Cole 2.0. Knack for making big plays but can't count on him. Poor gap discipline, misses assignments and tackles. Still, probably the best WLB we've had the last couple years. Also good depth. But not worth the big money that PFF was projecting. And not a viable long-term replacement for Barr IMO.

Cole had 2 picks ( pick sixes?) in 1 preseason game and really nothing more to talk about, comparing him to Wilsons efforts over an entire season is pretty disingenuous and cynical. Cole was the poster child for Mr Mankato as he was slow, and never did a damn thing outside of TC/Preseason worth noting.

03-30-2021, 08:33 PM

Quote: @JimmyinSD said:

@rf54 said:
As some of us here have stated he is just not as good as his flash plays make him look, he gives up too many big plays by not being able to shed blocks or be where he is always supposed to be.
Barr looked less than impressive in 19 when he didnt have quality DT play in front of him either. This year with improved DTs Barr should return to form, but he still wont have the splash plays that Wilson made in 1 year with the worst DL in front of him than we have seen from the Vikings in about a decade.

If Wilson is willing to play for half the money that Barr thinks he is worth and is able to play a the same level he showed last year (he wont see the OL on him in run plays like he saw with no DT help in 20) he should be plenty good enough at that position, and possibly even an improvement over Barr, while freeing up cap to pay Hunter the assload he is wanting.

Wilson didn't look good with quality DTs in front of him in '19 either. He is who he is, a decent backup that likes to freelance too much, leading to occasional splash plays and more often to being out of position so it looks to the fans that someone else made the mistake.

03-30-2021, 08:35 PM

Quote: @JimmyinSD said:

@MaroonBells said:
He's Audie Cole 2.0. Knack for making big plays but can't count on him. Poor gap discipline, misses assignments and tackles. Still, probably the best WLB we've had the last couple years. Also good depth. But not worth the big money that PFF was projecting. And not a viable long-term replacement for Barr IMO.
Cole had 2 picks ( pick sixes?) in 1 preseason game and really nothing more to talk about, comparing him to Wilsons efforts over an entire season is pretty disingenuous and cynical. Cole was the poster child for Mr Mankato as he was slow, and never did a damn thing outside of TC/Preseason worth noting.

Thought Cole played for a couple years on goal line D. But yes, same issue. Flash talent, but any defensive coach will attest that gap discipline, consistently being where you are supposed to be is more important than the occasional splash play.