Another day another mass murder in Amerika...

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@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:
Just trying to figure out the narrative here.  It is so confusing when you have to look at the skin color to know how to react.  Liberals are really way ahead on this game.

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

@Viking1987 said:

so you admit being a racist

About what, that these are two Caucasians, okay you caught me?  Are they guilty, pretty much, did they both survive their apprehension, yep.    How about you, anything your not afraid to confess, like fragility?

Semitic Caucasian?  So when the left freaked out about Trump restricting travel from these "Semitic Caucasian" regions, they were wrong to call him racist?  You judged by appearance.  Color of skin.  Seems V1987 might be hitting home?

No he was basing it on religion, Muslim, Jews are Semitic Caucasians too.  What's V1987, not sure what subtle reference you are trying to make?

Isnt judging someone by the color of their skin the definition of a racist?  Isnt that exactly what you did?

Also cite your death numbers. 

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@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:
Just trying to figure out the narrative here.  It is so confusing when you have to look at the skin color to know how to react.  Liberals are really way ahead on this game.

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

@Viking1987 said:

so you admit being a racist

About what, that these are two Caucasians, okay you caught me?  Are they guilty, pretty much, did they both survive their apprehension, yep.    How about you, anything your not afraid to confess, like fragility?

Semitic Caucasian?  So when the left freaked out about Trump restricting travel from these "Semitic Caucasian" regions, they were wrong to call him racist?  You judged by appearance.  Color of skin.  Seems V1987 might be hitting home?

No he was basing it on religion, Muslim, Jews are Semitic Caucasians too.  What's V1987, not sure what subtle reference you are trying to make?

Isnt judging someone by the color of their skin the definition of a racist?  Isnt that exactly what you did?

Also cite your death numbers. 

No it's prejudice,  Racism is a superiority issue.   I told you there is no database where that information is kept, Police Unions do not allow the sharing of that information.   Just like congress will not approve any grants or funding for the study of gun violence in the US,  NRA (Russia) and the gun lobby.

Here is the article I referenced, dive on the topic and see if you can identify your own conformation bias.      

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccart...acfe259f7c

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So racial judging by a liberal or minority is ok as its just prejudice,   by a conservative or white and its based on a pre-conceived notion of superiority...thus racist.

Again what seems like a racist position IMO... but I'm sure its just more prejudice. 

Yall have fun with this one and don't forget to play nice.

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@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

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@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

NY blew me away the first time I went...Our kid was accepted into Parsons Design School in Manhattan and we had to move em out there to a dorm.  Talk about learning experiences for parents and adults lol!! 

You felt like you were plugged in, I felt like I was born there...Cant wait to get back. Boston is so historic as is NOLA and I love Nashville, Austin and Seattle too.

The South and West Charm is different than Midwest and NE. Those differences make our country great. So sad when we see through a lens of red vs blue, Dem cities vs Repub's. 

Now our kid is in LA and while I love the ocean, the weather, legal weed, vegan galore and palm trees, it's as soulless as Bentonville, AR. imo. 

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So, here's the "logic" I've been getting from the left for years, now:

"THERE'S A WHACKO GUN NUT WITH AN AR-15 BEHIND EVERY TREE! WE NEED TO TAKE YOUR, OOPS, THEIR GUNS!"

"YOU NEED TO LET THE GUBMINT HAVE ALL THE GUNS, AS WE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO!"

'OH, AND SORRY POLICE REACTION TIMES ARE GETTING SLOWER, IT'S FASHIONABLE TO HATE POLICE AND WE'RE DEFUNDING DEPARTMENTS!"

So, to wrap up:

If you actually embrace the right to own firearms, you must be seconds away from a mass killing...according to "representatives" who keep forgetting that WE tell THEM what to do...

...while they are playing optics games and making us wait longer for less police.

They want us to believe there's a whacko every three feet, don't want us able to defend ourselves with similar weaponry, and are actually working to extend waits for law enforcement.

Some of y'all vote for this s**t.  Really?

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@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:
Just trying to figure out the narrative here.  It is so confusing when you have to look at the skin color to know how to react.  Liberals are really way ahead on this game.

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

@Viking1987 said:

No it's prejudice,  Racism is a superiority issue.   I told you there is no database where that information is kept, Police Unions do not allow the sharing of that information.   Just like congress will not approve any grants or funding for the study of gun violence in the US,  NRA (Russia) and the gun lobby.

Here is the article I referenced, dive on the topic and see if you can identify your own conformation bias.      

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccart...acfe259f7c

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:
Just trying to figure out the narrative here.  It is so confusing when you have to look at the skin color to know how to react.  Liberals are really way ahead on this game.

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

@Viking1987 said:

so you admit being a racist

About what, that these are two Caucasians, okay you caught me?  Are they guilty, pretty much, did they both survive their apprehension, yep.    How about you, anything your not afraid to confess, like fragility?

Semitic Caucasian?  So when the left freaked out about Trump restricting travel from these "Semitic Caucasian" regions, they were wrong to call him racist?  You judged by appearance.  Color of skin.  Seems V1987 might be hitting home?

No he was basing it on religion, Muslim, Jews are Semitic Caucasians too.  What's V1987, not sure what subtle reference you are trying to make?

Isnt judging someone by the color of their skin the definition of a racist?  Isnt that exactly what you did?

Also cite your death numbers. 

No it's prejudice,  Racism is a superiority issue.   I told you there is no database where that information is kept, Police Unions do not allow the sharing of that information.   Just like congress will not approve any grants or funding for the study of gun violence in the US,  NRA (Russia) and the gun lobby.

Here is the article I referenced, dive on the topic and see if you can identify your own conformation bias.      

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccart...acfe259f7c

I’ll do the math in the AM but death by police seems to match up with violent crime by race. 

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf

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@purplefaithful said:

@MaroonBells said:

@purplefaithful said:

@Skodin said:

@Viking1987 said:
gun laws have worked so well in  chicago New York new Orleans and  other shithole liberal cities

Why are Chicago and New York shit hole cities?

Luv em both...Wouldnt want to live in any big, urban areas myself but what cool places to visit. Culturally off the charts and these cities are some of the reasons our country is still great. 

First time I visited New York I felt like someone plugged me in to an outlet. Felt alive, like this is where I'm meant to be. I've had that same experience in Chicago, San Francisco, Montreal, Boston, NOLA. Not so every big city tho. For example, LA doesn't do that, Dallas doesn't do that. I think it's because those cities don't have a center, a soul. They're dominated by their suburbs. 

But growing up in small town Montana, I've spent a lot of time in jobless, depressed, meth-riddled towns like Billings, MT, Rapid City, SD, Casper, WY, Goodland, KS...I wouldn't call them shitholes because I'm not a douche, but I could never go back to that. 

NY blew me away the first time I went...Our kid was accepted into Parsons Design School in Manhattan and we had to move em out there to a dorm.  Talk about learning experiences for parents and adults lol!! 

You felt like you were plugged in, I felt like I was born there...Cant wait to get back. Boston is so historic as is NOLA and I love Nashville, Austin and Seattle too.

The South and West Charm is different than Midwest and NE. Those differences make our country great. So sad when we see through a lens of red vs blue, Dem cities vs Repub's. 

Now our kid is in LA and while I love the ocean, the weather, legal weed, vegan galore and palm trees, it's as soulless as Bentonville, AR. imo. 

I used to live in NYC and I loved it. There was so much culture in one place. The art, food and history. It was such a fun place and so alive. It was a lot to take in but I tried to soak up as much as I could. I agree about the different areas of the country. Been to California many times, Texas as well. Each place has its own vibe and tone. I love the coasts. Traveling is something I really miss right now, I can't wait to get out and explore again.

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@AGRforever said:

@BigAl99 said:

@AGRforever said:

@greediron said:
Just trying to figure out the narrative here.  It is so confusing when you have to look at the skin color to know how to react.  Liberals are really way ahead on this game.

@BigAl99 said:

@greediron said:

@BigAl99 said:

@Viking1987 said:

No it's prejudice,  Racism is a superiority issue.   I told you there is no database where that information is kept, Police Unions do not allow the sharing of that information.   Just like congress will not approve any grants or funding for the study of gun violence in the US,  NRA (Russia) and the gun lobby.

Here is the article I referenced, dive on the topic and see if you can identify your own conformation bias.      

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccart...acfe259f7c

So I did the math.  Hopefully the excel sheet stays formatted properly when I hit post.   It turns out that Hispanics aren't a thing according to the FBI table that I used but their death rate and population line up pretty much exactly.  Anyway, one should expect that if a certain race is committing more crime, especially more violent crime they would likely have a higher chance of getting killed during said police interaction.  Based on your table of death by cop and comparing it to crimes by race
it would seem to me that blacks are actually getting killed less
frequently by cops if compared violent crime.  Blacks are slightly more likely to get killed by a cop if you compare it to all crime.  What we cannot know based off your "death by cop" chart is what the nature of the crime being committed was when the police interaction took place. 

			Total People White  Black Hispanic      328,239,523 76.30% 13.40% 18.50% Police Deaths White  Black Hispanic 4728 2385 1252 877 50.44% 26.48% 18.55% Violent Crime White  Black 404,236 236,590 151,744 Percent of violent crimes committed 58.53% 37.54% Death rate per violent crime 1.01% 0.83% All Crime White  Black 2,540,842 1,750,366 700,984 Percent of all crimes committed 68.89% 27.59% Death rate per all crime 0.14% 0.18% Police deaths based off Forbes article provided Crime rate based off of FBI table 43 2017 Total people based off of census/google