Another day another mass murder in Amerika...

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@StickyBun said:

@AGRforever said:

So amend the constitution, problem solved. 

Don't be so flip. Everyone knows its complicated with mental health. But do you need an AR-15 automatic assault weapon? The answer is hell no.

I don't have an AR15 but thats not the point.  If you're going to ban the black scary AR15 do you continue to allow the features of an AR15?  Namely semi-automatic firing?  If you were to ban that we're talking about the vast majority of guns sold for the past several decades.
I have under 10 firearms and all but 1 are semi-automatic and the one that isn't semi-automatic was inherited.  Every gun I've purchased from a little .22 to my larger riffle are semi-automatic.  Do I need to turn them in?

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@MaroonBells said:

@AGRforever said:

So amend the constitution, problem solved. 

Constitution doesn't need amending. It needs understanding. 

Ahhh, don't like the rules just change them.  The true ways of democracy.
Look you can wish in one hand and shit in the other.  The way the 2nd amendment has been and will continue to be interpreted is a right to personal firearms.  There is already is laws on the books limiting firearm possession.  For instance you cannot own an automatic weapon without a ffl license or have it on file with the ATF. But as far as regulations with any chance of happening? You might get background checks or some sort of feature ban but the idea that guns are going away will not happen without a repeal of the 2nd amendment.  So until you can reach the threshold required to amend the constitution its kind of a waste of time.

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@Vikergirl said:
The coverage of a white male shooter is never talked about in terms of domestic terrorism. That is exactly what it is. Call it what it is. 

The coverage of the Atlanta shooter was all about making excuses. He went to church. He fucked up the ten commandments big time. He never swore. He had a sex addiction. It wasn't racially motivated. Bullfuckingshit. He targeted specific people in specific locations. The captain said this fuckwit had a bad day. That goes way beyond bad day. 

We are still learning about this dude in Colorado but because he killed a cop, the coverage is different, but he was still taken alive. 

I'm fine with that.  Cover it as a domestic terrorist.  Send his ass to some shit prison saved for the worst of the worst.  String him up by his testicles if you want for all I care.

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@AGRforever said:

@MaroonBells said:

@AGRforever said:

So amend the constitution, problem solved. 

Constitution doesn't need amending. It needs understanding. 

Ahhh, don't like the rules just change them.  The true ways of democracy.
Look you can wish in one hand and shit in the other.  The way the 2nd amendment has been and will continue to be interpreted is a right to personal firearms.  There is already is laws on the books limiting firearm possession.  For instance you cannot own an automatic weapon without a ffl license or have it on file with the ATF. But as far as regulations with any chance of happening? You might get background checks or some sort of feature ban but the idea that guns are going away will not happen without a repeal of the 2nd amendment.  So until you can reach the threshold required to amend the constitution its kind of a waste of time.

No it was activist judges, Roberts and Alito who reinterpreted in Heller Vs District of Columbia ruling of 2008 that disassociated, militia and personal rights.  Never before had that been viewed as an unalienable right.  This gun ownership "right" is only a recent error. 

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idiots will find one way or another to kill. if its not automatic weapons, its a truck full of ammonium sulfate. seems like those gravitating toward these weapons are those who feel “disenfranchised” or bullied, or “having a bad day”...the automatic weapons are an “equalizer” for some (not all).

Although I dont believe people need a stinger missile launcher in their home, the second amendment protects those who wish to protect themselves and their families or as a hobby, or whatever.  Ive never owned a gun, and never will, the real issue is the tragic loss of mental health facilities, personnel and funding. Thanks President Reagan for undoing what JFK recognized as a developing need in the 1960s

just my opinion

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@Vanguard83 said:
idiots will find one way or another to kill. if its not automatic weapons, its a truck full of ammonium sulfate. seems like those gravitating toward these weapons are those who feel “disenfranchised” or bullied, or “having a bad day”...the automatic weapons are an “equalizer” for some (not all).

Although I dont believe people need a stinger missile launcher in their home, the second amendment protects those who wish to protect themselves and their families or as a hobby, or whatever.  Ive never owned a gun, and never will, the real issue is the tragic loss of mental health facilities, personnel and funding. Thanks President Reagan for undoing what JFK recognized as a developing need in the 1960s

just my opinion

That personal protection facet of the 2nd Amendment is a recent court decision, we need to approach it as such.  I've been on both sides of ownership, as an engineer I am enthralled by the mechanisms and collected for a while, enjoyed it more than firing the damn things, although that's kinda cool too.  But ownership is so polarized (see Russian NRA relationships) that it's a pretty easy choice for me to make.  Second Amendment was written during a time of smooth bore muzzle loading weapons.  Militia's role was for conscription to protect the State, not the individual.     

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what about the 25 people shot in chicago were they have strict gun control

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@BigAl99 said:
Notice the race of both shooters who were "taken into custody", just an observation.   

why dont u post the race of the people who did the 25 shootings this weekend  inchicago

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@AGRforever said:

@StickyBun said:

@AGRforever said:

So amend the constitution, problem solved. 

Don't be so flip. Everyone knows its complicated with mental health. But do you need an AR-15 automatic assault weapon? The answer is hell no.

I don't have an AR15 but thats not the point.  If you're going to ban the black scary AR15 do you continue to allow the features of an AR15?  Namely semi-automatic firing?  If you were to ban that we're talking about the vast majority of guns sold for the past several decades.
I have under 10 firearms and all but 1 are semi-automatic and the one that isn't semi-automatic was inherited.  Every gun I've purchased from a little .22 to my larger riffle are semi-automatic.  Do I need to turn them in?

hell no u dont

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@BigAl99 said:
Notice the race of both shooters who were "taken into custody", just an observation.   

Please expound on your taking note of skin color in this post.  I am curios as to what point you are hoping to make.