Mac Jones

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So why did we not draft him again? Ugh!

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Wonder if that had anything to do with Zimmer looking so mad draft night.  There were 4 clear top QBs and a huge drop after that.  We needed to draft a QB and one of the 4 were there.  Sometimes it is just not that complicated.  

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@JR44 said:
Wonder if that had anything to do with Zimmer looking so mad draft night.  There were 4 clear top QBs and a huge drop after that.  We needed to draft a QB and one of the 4 were there.  Sometimes it is just not that complicated.  

i can not tell you how frustrated I am watching hom play. We did not have to do anythig to get him.

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Zimmer hasn't seemed to care about qbs since Teddy though. I don't know if that was it.

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I guess the NFL Draft is a game of hindsight. I do think NFL QBs are best judged in Year 2 and 3 than one, good or bad.

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@mblack said:
So why did we not draft him again? Ugh!

Seems like it would be a good move but he would probably be a bust behind the Vikings O-line.

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@mblack said:
So why did we not draft him again? Ugh!

I dont know what Mac Jones' ceiling is...

They had a choice; double down on their investment in KC and those magnificent skill players with 2 high draft picks on the OL or not...

Time will tell re: Darrisaw and Davies. It's a bummer neither have contributed yet. 

I see what KC can do with decent time - he's a very good passer. IMO its too early to say it was a bad move - but it will be if neither of those OL are contributing this year or next.  

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hmmm.. a few of us were really pushing for drafting one of the QB's with our first pick.

My three main points for the months leading up to the draft were:

1 -  A QB rich draft doesn't happen only when you need it to.  In fact, most teams reach and convince themselves that the QB available is the guy even though if he was in a draft before or after lumped in with others you could see that he was a reach (Ponder of course).  

2 - We usually don't draft very high and we were sitting at 14 which was high enough to get 2 of those 5 first round QB's.  We did not have enough ammo to even get into the Top 7 and the the first 3 went 1,2,3.  

3 - Spelly/Wilf/Zimmer had to view Cousins contract as a sunk cost and it should not preclude you from going after a Top QB.  


The way the draft fell we had at a shot at moving up a few spots for Fields (we had the ammo if you want to and have conviction) or taking Mac Jones and not dropping back.  We obviously decided that Fields was not worth moving up for and Jones was not worth 14.  Personally without hindsight I said I would have been fine moving up for Fields into that 10 range.  I was not sold on Mac Jones so at the time I was not that bummed that we did the move down and still got the Tackle I wanted.  But, I am just your average die-hard fan, and I believed that with a pretty experienced draft room ( I know first year w/out Paton) that they would know if either Fields was worth the move up and Jones was worth the 14 pick.  I would have supported any first round Top 5 QB pick and said so before and after the draft based on my 3 main points above.

Now next years draft might be totally different in terms of the QB pool.

Are we going to have a new front office making those decisions and if so who is out there?  Easy to want change but who is out there at the GM level to right this ship starting with an Offensive minded HC.  

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One bad game from Kirk and everyone is saying we should have drafted Mac Jones...lolz that's funny. If the Browns had Kirk instead of Baker they likely beat us by 30. The OL showed its true colors again yesterday, total doo doo. If Darrisaw is good to go then you play him over Hill. I know it wont happen, but I fully support giving Davis a shot at center because Bradbury aint it.

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I don't think it matters which qb is behind this OL.