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Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
how is it acceptable to use the term "people of color", but if I referred to a black man or woman as a "colored person" then I would likely get the shit slapped out of me?
edit: this isnt a shot at Pfaith, its an observation, i see the term people of color used widely, but I know for a fact that "colored" is not an appropriate reference to a black man/woman.
always loved this one:
I moved from MN to Florida in the early 80's and was really gobsmacked. We moved around the South for 20 years thinking it would be different if we moved back to the Midwest, it wasn't. In fact we got a kind of a small, very small, taste of it with the way our kids were treated in school. It was like wearing shoes exceeded the teachers expectations, the kids did come here from TN don't you know. For us it was just being treated as an outsider, just how We-uns and You-uns are delimited, it was way easier for us to "blend in". I agree it's a national issue. One thing I did pick up on was the how coding and dog whistles are used, and realized I had grown up using our own in St. Paul when I was growing up. Our state legislators are now trying to ban discussion and use of the 1619 project in schools, they are afraid the kid's don't have the "critical reasoning" for such information. That was always one thing I wanted our kid to be engaged and developing at school.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
how is it acceptable to use the term "people of color", but if I referred to a black man or woman as a "colored person" then I would likely get the shit slapped out of me?
edit: this isnt a shot at Pfaith, its an observation, i see the term people of color used widely, but I know for a fact that "colored" is not an appropriate reference to a black man/woman.
always loved this one:
One was considered derogatory and the other one is not. One is a reminder of ugly history. Search colored signs and you will see it.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
how is it acceptable to use the term "people of color", but if I referred to a black man or woman as a "colored person" then I would likely get the shit slapped out of me?
edit: this isnt a shot at Pfaith, its an observation, i see the term people of color used widely, but I know for a fact that "colored" is not an appropriate reference to a black man/woman.
always loved this one:
One was considered derogatory and the other one is not. One is a reminder of ugly history. Search colored signs and you will see it.
IMO its more a case of selective rage.... either a words use pisses a person off or it doesnt. lots of examples these days of people not giving a shit when one person says something vs when another person does. either saying a black person is "colored" is offensive or it isnt, not really a grey/gray way of looking at it IMO.
It depends on who say's it. The discussions about how one culture taking ownership of pejorative terms about themselves and turn it positive by using them as terms of cohesion within their own community is very important. What I also learned in those discussions, trying to take back those terms and say if "if I can't use those words, you can't either" is one of the simplest examples of privilege there is.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
how is it acceptable to use the term "people of color", but if I referred to a black man or woman as a "colored person" then I would likely get the shit slapped out of me?
edit: this isnt a shot at Pfaith, its an observation, i see the term people of color used widely, but I know for a fact that "colored" is not an appropriate reference to a black man/woman.
always loved this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAlxQky4X8
One was considered derogatory and the other one is not. One is a reminder of ugly history. Search colored signs and you will see it.
IMO its more a case of selective rage.... either a words use pisses a person off or it doesnt. lots of examples these days of people not giving a shit when one person says something vs when another person does. either saying a black person is "colored" is offensive or it isnt, not really a grey/gray way of looking at it IMO.
Those signs on businesses are more than selective rage. They were barriers to keep people out. Those are dark spots in history. Some of that history is not that long ago. Until that part of our history is reckoned with, we are stuck in some very important ways. The systemic racism needs to be addressed.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
It depends on who say's it. The discussions about how one culture taking ownership of pejorative terms about themselves and turn it positive by using them as terms of cohesion within their own community is very important. What I also learned in those discussions, trying to take back those terms and say if "if I can't use those words, you can't either" is one of the simplest examples of privilege there is.
I dont see it as I should be able to use a term they find offensive, I just dont think their ire should be of my concern if they are accepting of its use by others but not by me. IMO that is more racist than the use of the words to begin with.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Since it's very inception, this country has and most likely always will be dealing with racism. It's the ugly underbelly of Amerika. It sure aint just Tx. Ive said for years that these nice Minnesotan's (of which I am one) is among the most segregated states in the Union.
Back when I worked for BIG CPG we had a hell of a time keeping good people of color here long-term. Not a place that many wanted to raise their families.
Younger generations of people of color aren't ok with how things were going forward. I sure don't blame em. Lots of tough conversations going on.
how is it acceptable to use the term "people of color", but if I referred to a black man or woman as a "colored person" then I would likely get the shit slapped out of me?
edit: this isnt a shot at Pfaith, its an observation, i see the term people of color used widely, but I know for a fact that "colored" is not an appropriate reference to a black man/woman.
always loved this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAlxQky4X8
One was considered derogatory and the other one is not. One is a reminder of ugly history. Search colored signs and you will see it.
IMO its more a case of selective rage.... either a words use pisses a person off or it doesnt. lots of examples these days of people not giving a shit when one person says something vs when another person does. either saying a black person is "colored" is offensive or it isnt, not really a grey/gray way of looking at it IMO.
Those signs on businesses are more than selective rage. They were barriers to keep people out. Those are dark spots in history. Some of that history is not that long ago. Until that part of our history is reckoned with, we are stuck in some very important ways. The systemic racism needs to be addressed.
no its not. either they are upset with the use of the word "color" to describe people of their skin tone, or they are not. This isnt about disputing the validity of their offense being taken, but its about how much give a shit should be given when the anger is not applied equally. either using that word in that context is offensive or it isnt, if it is then we shouldnt see anybody using that word that way.
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