Zeus Jr Wants Out of Baltimore

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@greediron said:

@Knucklehead said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

Yes and with both O'Neill and Cleveland being possible LTs, I don't know that adding a highly paid possible diva at LT is what this team needs.

I share your concerns about the diva aspect (I think "possible" is too kind), but I don't think the Vikings really consider Ezra Cleveland a good prospect for LT. He was practicing at OG even when they thought Elflein and Samia were solid players. Short arms. O'Neill, yes.

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make it happen... and then... show Reiff the pictures of him in a compromising situation that we have so that he signs an extension for moderate money and agrees to kick inside to LG.... lets go!  Can anybody say contender?

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Brown-Reiff-Bradburry-Cleveland-ONeil

Draft DT in the back end of the 1st, add a vet DT in FA (Short, Atkins, Suh), a DE in the 3rd

Rebuild the trenches, the young DBs evolve, the offense becomes more productive

Contender once again

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@JimmyinSD said:
make it happen... and then... show Reiff the pictures of him in a compromising situation that we have so that he signs an extension for moderate money and agrees to kick inside to LG.... lets go!  Can anybody say contender?

these?


Kidding.  I like Reiff actually.  I think we keep him for another year, develop Cleveland for another year.

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@greediron said:

@JimmyinSD said:
make it happen... and then... show Reiff the pictures of him in a compromising situation that we have so that he signs an extension for moderate money and agrees to kick inside to LG.... lets go!  Can anybody say contender?

these?


Kidding.  I like Reiff actually.  I think we keep him for another year, develop Cleveland for another year.

nothing more compromising than being shown in a lions jeresey....

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@greediron said:

@Knucklehead said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

Yes and with both O'Neill and Cleveland being possible LTs, I don't know that adding a highly paid possible diva at LT is what this team needs.

I don't know if O'Neill was hurt last year or what was going on, but he certainly took a step back and was getting beat. I don't know that I'd feel comfortable having him switch sides

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@Knucklehead said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's. 

I get that as being a concern but the running argument is to keep Reiff at LT on a restructured deal and O'Neill at RT on an extension. So you're basically swapping out giving Reiff more money and giving it to Brown Jr. instead. Since he still has a year left on his rookie deal you can also spread the money out a little more easily that a restructure with Reiff. So although in the end Brown Jr. may cost more the cap impact may very well be the same if not better.  

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@"BarrNone55" said:
You know, just another case if Rick had listened to me in the first place.

Maybe try having the girl friend call Rick’s wife...!  B) 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this. 

Oh? Do tell. 

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side. 

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap. 

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension. 

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so. 

I would jump on that deal so fast that fans would think this late 50s guy could still play the game; even when my play was marginal in my prime.

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