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02-26-2021, 04:07 PM

Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.

02-26-2021, 04:08 PM

Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.

Oh? Do tell.

02-26-2021, 04:18 PM

Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.

I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

02-26-2021, 04:21 PM

You know, just another case if Rick had listened to me in the first place.

02-26-2021, 04:47 PM

Man it would be killer to not have OT as a problem going forward. Imagine what this team could do with a great OL. Then Zimmer needs to prove he can field a decent defense again and we're in the hunt. Though as was evidenced by the SB you need to have a pass rush to beat teams like KC.

02-26-2021, 05:14 PM

Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.
I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

Wow, a bit shocked at the idea. Any worries that Brown isn't going to be as good at LT? Or...fitting the Vikings' blocking scheme? Normally I would not expect them to target an OL who weighs 355 and ran a ten-minute 40.. Wink

Would this change the contract conversations with O'Neill?

02-26-2021, 05:20 PM

Quote: @Jor-El said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.
I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

Wow, a bit shocked at the idea. Any worries that Brown isn't going to be as good at LT? Or...fitting the Vikings' blocking scheme? Normally I would not expect them to target an OL who weighs 355 and ran a ten-minute 40..

Would this change the contract conversations with O'Neill?

Can't speak to the contract side, but Brown player LT last year and allowed a whopping... 0 pressures. He can play the position and arguably may be a top 10 LT in the NFL.

02-26-2021, 05:35 PM

Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.
I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's.

02-26-2021, 05:37 PM

Quote: @Knucklehead said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.
I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's.

Yes and with both O'Neill and Cleveland being possible LTs, I don't know that adding a highly paid possible diva at LT is what this team needs.

02-26-2021, 05:57 PM

Quote: @Knucklehead said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"Geoff Nichols" said:
Of note, the Vikings are very involved on this.
Oh? Do tell.
I don't know what they've offered or if they've formally made an offer. But lets say the Vikings could offer #14 and send the Ravens back their 3rd #91 for #27 and Brown. That is a late 1st/early 2nd valuation and I think it honestly makes sense from the MN side.

You trade back in the 1st which puts you in a better position to target a DT or DE. You add a premiere LT that is about to turn 25. It allows you to move on from Reiff now and save a net $8.5M or so once you add in Browns cap hit to the 2021 cap.

Sure, you'll need to extend Brown on a long-term deal but that won't really impact the cap in 2021 and you can keep the 2022 number lower than a Reiff restructure as well. Then in 2023 you'd see the brunt of the extension.

Not saying it'll happen but I can see why they'd be exploring it (as are many teams) I just know the Vikings are more serious than some. Brown/O'Neill would be a great OT combo for the next decade or so.

Only issue that I see with this is having to extend both O'Neill & Brown in consecutive years. That's a lot of cap dedicated to your OT's.

I guess the way I look at it is if we actually pulled this off we could actually have OL as a strength for a first time in more then a decade. It would take away all the questions with Kirk and the offense in general. They'd be who we they are without any excuses. Just get it done on O and then all we have to worry about is the defense and we have a bounty of young talent there so I think we've got a chance.