Where the hell is Ponder on these lists? :/
None of them won a Super Bowl so how could any of them be any good?
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Fran was definitely a franchise QB...but technically, we acquired him via trade from the Giants before his Super Bowl seasons, so even though we initially drafted him, he kind of set the future pattern.
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Good call, I never realized that we had actually drafted Fran and thought he was just always someone we acquired via trade from the Giants.
This caught my eye in looking over his career. His last season was in 1978 and he threw 32 INT's that season! How the hell was that even possible in the 3 yards and a cloud of dust era of football? Like I said, all before my time...
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Good call, I never realized that we had actually drafted Fran and thought he was just always someone we acquired via trade from the Giants.
This caught my eye in looking over his career. His last season was in 1978 and he threw 32 INT's that season! How the hell was that even possible in the 3 yards and a cloud of dust era of football? Like I said, all before my time...
It was Burns' Great Lake Offense, the precursor to the WCO.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Good call, I never realized that we had actually drafted Fran and thought he was just always someone we acquired via trade from the Giants.
This caught my eye in looking over his career. His last season was in 1978 and he threw 32 INT's that season! How the hell was that even possible in the 3 yards and a cloud of dust era of football? Like I said, all before my time...
INTs used to be a lot more plentiful...in the 1970s, I remember that the best QBs in the league regularly threw 20+ in a season. Bradshaw was league MVP with 20 INTs (and 28 TDs) in '78...Joe Namath usually threw more INTs than TDs. I think DBs were given far more latitude in those days.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@ comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Fran was definitely a franchise QB...but technically, we acquired him via trade from the Giants before his Super Bowl seasons, so even though we initially drafted him, he kind of set the future pattern.
Why they ever traded him away I don't know. When he led us over the Bears as a rookie in the 1st ever Viking game we became the only expansion team ever to win its first game, which is a record that I think still stands.
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ Jor-El said:
@ comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Fran was definitely a franchise QB...but technically, we acquired him via trade from the Giants before his Super Bowl seasons, so even though we initially drafted him, he kind of set the future pattern.
Why they ever traded him away I don't know. When he led us over the Bears as a rookie in the 1st ever Viking game we became the only expansion team ever to win its first game, which is a record that I think still stands.
The Texans won their first game too...I think against the Cowboys?
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Hmmmm, I seem to recall the Vikings giving up on Rich Gannon, what would have been eh? Also the Vikings DID plan on drafting Bernie Kosar but he wanted to play for Cleveland so the NFL broke their own rules and let him skip the regular draft and go in the supplemental. The Vikings got Doleman instead but one wonders what would those mid to late 1980s teams been able to accomplish with Kosar instead of Wade Wilson
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ Jor-El said:
@ comet52 said:
@ supafreak84 said:
It's just crazy to me that we have never in the franchise's history drafted a QB that's been a franchise type player. Culpepper has been the closest. We have always been the spot for established QB's to go to make a run when our talent has been up to par
Fran doesn't count?
Fran was definitely a franchise QB...but technically, we acquired him via trade from the Giants before his Super Bowl seasons, so even though we initially drafted him, he kind of set the future pattern.
Why they ever traded him away I don't know. When he led us over the Bears as a rookie in the 1st ever Viking game we became the only expansion team ever to win its first game, which is a record that I think still stands.
Butting heads with ultra old school Norm Van Brocklin. Trade worked out pretty well for the Vikes. Allowed them to draft Ron Yary, Ed White, Clint Jones and Bobby Grim (who ironically went to the Giants in the trade that returned Fran).
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