01-13-2021, 12:44 AM
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Come one SF, if you think the bulk of the bad this summer was caused by righties, I think you need to lay off the blue paint fumes for awhile. You'll absolutely be able to find articles saying the other guys did it every time there is a pot that boils over but that doesn't take away who started and caused the bulk of the problem.@JimmyinSD said:
The fact you can’t understand the difference between a group of people that have been illegally targeted by law enforcement for centuries, that they are beaten, shot and killed due to their skin color and they are fed up with the lack of accountability from white cops being held responsible .... marching for equality, freedom and civil rights.@Vikergirl said:
In addition to the election was stolen bullshit propaganda, a Jewish man won a Senate seat and the first black man won a Senate seat in Georgia. I think that loss of control set some people off. There are people going to different state capitols across the country. Michigan just banned open carry at the Capitol. I think that is a good thing. There are way too many people out of control. It has been boiling over. The attempt to kidnap the Governor of Michigan was dismissed by many. The mayor of DC and the Governors of Maryland and Virginia are telling people not to attend the inauguration because of these fuckwits. These are some ugly times right now. How are these fuckwits different than the violent protesters that took over our nation's big cities this summer? And don't use the race card, that was not about social justice, that was about assholes using a cause to stir shit up. Where was the outrage then. This is all bullshit. Either people need to call it all out as criminal and demand investigations and prosecutions, or people need to stay on the sidelines. The outrage now by those silent all of 2020 is purely political.
Also it’s been talked about - rightwing angry white guy arrested for vandalism while in the BLM crowd?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/07/28/mystery-umbrella-man-vandal-from-minnesota-police-say-hes-a-white-supremacist-instigator/amp/
Here’s another one arrested for shooting at the precinct:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/23/man-linked-far-right-boogaloo-bois-charged-after-allegedly-firing-ak-47-minneapolis-precinct/?outputType=amp
So many of these violent, destructive acts came from angry white supremacists, not BLM supporters.
Contrasted with an attempted coup, when a bunch of angry white people who are convinced an election was stolen (when it wasn’t) because they have been egged on by their racist leader for years, and decided to violently overthrow the government and kill cops in the process.
Jesus Christ Jimmy .... if you honestly can’t see the difference here because you think it’s politicial?
You are the very definition of white privilege flirting with racism.
Can you please explain the difference between the "white supremacists" that entered the capital buildingfor two hours last week and the "communists" that seceded an actual portion of Seattle for the better part of a month this summer? Both seem quite treasonous to me.
I'll start by ignoring your definition of the groups.
I understand my points below will be picked apart for semantics but this is an attempt to show the differences.
A. Cause
Seattle: Demonstrations because of unjust killing of George Floyd (fact) in particular and others.
Capitol: Demonstrations because they want to "Stop the Steal" which of course is a lie (promoted by the President and others) as the elections were not stolen (proven false many times over)
B. Approach:
Seattle: Started as a peaceful demonstrations that degenerated to violence
Capitol: Started with violent intent (they were fighting to stop the steal - their words not mine). They were going to fight and "Hang Mike Pence". They brought a noose and guillotine.
C. Law and Order Presence:
Seattle: Massive police presence with rampant large scale arrests
Capitol: Very few officers and few arrests till after the fact. Cops taking pictures with and "enabling" protesters. Some arrested have even been released already.
D. Target:
Seattle: No one in particular (goal was to create awareness)
Capitol: Congress members, the speaker of the house and the VP of the United States. Pretty much anyone who was against their agenda.
E. President's Reaction:
Seattle: Thugs and terrorists
Capitol: Patriots and "we love you"
F. Venue:
Seattle: Seattle - a city in WA
Capitol: Washington DC the capital of the United States and heart of the American democracy (while congress was in session)
G. Race
Seattle: Largely blacks with an equally significant white population. Had antifa flags (antifa is not classified as a racist or terrorist org. Only Trump and his supporters do)
Capitol: Predominantly white with very few if all any blacks. Also had racist artifacts examples: confederacy flags, noose, proud boys t-shirts and members, 6MWE tshirts (all artifacts of racist and terrorist organizations)
H. International Reaction:
Seattle: Support and sympathy
Capitol: Denouncing the event
I can go on and on but please do not equate the events