Covid-19 Vax

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Former Presidents Obama, Clinton and Bush say they'd take COVID-19 vaccine on camera to prove safetyFormer Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton have said they are willing to take a coronavirus vaccine to prove that the treatment is safe and effective. They may even film themselves getting injected
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...806592001/

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What it feels like to get an mRNA coronavirus vaccine

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/health/co...index.html

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C.D.C. Recommends That Nursing Homes and Health Workers Get Vaccines FirstAn independent panel advising the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention voted Tuesday to recommend that residents and employees of nursing homes and similar facilities be the first people in the United States to receive coronavirus vaccines, along with health care workers who are especially at risk of being exposed to the virus.

The panel, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, voted 13 to 1 during an emergency meeting to make the recommendation. The director of the C.D.C., Dr. Robert R. Redfield, is expected to decide by Wednesday whether to accept it as the agency’s formal guidance to states as they prepare to start giving people the shots as soon as two weeks from now.
“We are acting none too soon,” said Dr. Beth Bell, a panel member and global health expert at the University of Washington, noting that Covid-19 would kill about 120 Americans during the meeting alone.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/01/...oronavirus

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This is from mid-November...I suspect these #'s will go up over time and the roll-out begins?


More Americans Now Willing to Get COVID-19 Vaccine
https://news.gallup.com/poll/325208/americans-willing-covid-vaccine.aspx

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What a world we live in where we have to show the dumbshits that its ok to take something or they'll believe what they read on Facebook. 

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The Mrna platform has tremendous promise beyond Covid...And for anyone with Moderna stock lol! 




What science has done in a year is historically significant - like really significant! 

There's always going to be anti-vaxers...I believe we only need 60%-70% vaccinated to achieve herd immunity in the States?

I just wish our current POTUS would get behind this as loudly as he does other topics..Join Bush/Clinton/Obama in their efforts. 

Back on thread, I am curious to see how long this vaccine will last? Will we need to be doing this annually ala influenza? Or might it require just one booster down the road.

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Vaccine rollout could ease crisis, but who gets it first?

By CARLA K. JOHNSON and NICKY FORSTER Associated PressDecember 3, 2020 — 5:30pm

Getting a COVID-19 vaccine to the right people could change the course of the pandemic in the United States. But who are the right people?

As the decision looms for President-elect Joe Biden's incoming administration, a new analysis argues for targeting the first vaccines to the same low-income Black, Hispanic and Native American households that have disproportionately suffered from the coronavirus. But no one at the federal level has committed to the idea, which would be a significant shift from the current population-based method adopted by Operation Warp Speed.
“It’s not just a math problem. It’s a question of implementing a major social justice commitment,” said Harald Schmidt, a medical ethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, who compared the strategies with colleagues from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Boston College. The Associated Press conducted an independent analysis of the findings and worked with the team to estimate how many disadvantaged people would benefit.
If the shots get to the right people, Schmidt argues, the benefits could extend to the entire nation: Fewer people would get sick, hospital capacity would improve and more of the economy could reopen. Lives would be saved.
In October, a panel advising the federal government suggested setting aside 10% of the vaccine supply to distribute as an extra boost to the states with greater shares of disadvantaged groups. But the idea from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine has been largely ignored.
The strategy could get vaccines to 12.3 million more vulnerable people in the early phases of distribution compared with the population-based method, the AP found in a collaboration with Schmidt’s team.
Any distribution system will reverberate across the nation, with consequences for everyone. It will be shaped by the early steps of federal officials and by state leaders who will allocate vaccines in the months when there is not enough supply to go around. California and several other states have stated that they intend to direct some of their supply to disadvantaged neighborhoods, but there's no national strategy to do so.
The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Robert Redfield, said Thursday that he looks forward to future recommendations that prioritize people 70 and older who live with younger relatives. “Often our Hispanic, Black and tribal nations families care for their elderly in multigenerational households, and they are also at significant risk,” Redfield said in a statement.
Redfield has approved initial recommendations that put health care personnel and residents of long-term care facilities at the front of the line.
No vaccine has been authorized for use yet in the U.S., but the preliminary results of ongoing clinical trials have been encouraging for Moderna’s and Pfizer’s candidates. If the Food and Drug Administration allows emergency use of one or both of those vaccines, there will be limited, rationed supplies before the end of the year.
Operation Warp Speed officials announced last week that states would receive vaccine in proportion to their adult populations, at least for the first 6.4 million doses and possibly beyond.
“We thought it best to keep it simple,” Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said. “We thought that would be the fairest approach, the most consistent.”
Fairness isn't that simple, Schmidt said.
“Allocating vaccines to states according to population does not help reduce inequity,” Schmidt said. Vulnerable people will face more rationing in states such as New Mexico that have higher shares of vulnerable people. “That’s not fair.”
Schmidt worked with Parag Pathak, Tayfun Sonmez and M. Utku Unver, pioneers in devising how to distribute resources in high-stakes systems such as school choice and organ donation. The researchers shared their underlying data with the AP. Their paper was posted online ahead of publication and has not been reviewed by other researchers.
The analysis shows 15 states and Washington, D.C., have the largest shares of vulnerable, low-income minorities. These worse-off populations make up more than 25% of the states' total populations. Those states stand to gain the most from a distribution method that sets aside a 10% national reserve.
A federal set-aside is not the only way to get vaccine to vulnerable neighborhoods. In their vaccination plans, 18 states have said they will consider race and income as they map out vaccine distribution.
Tennessee plans to reserve 10% of its vaccines for use in targeted areas with high scores on a measurement known as the social vulnerability index, which is based on census data that incorporates race, poverty, crowded housing and other factors. The index was developed by the CDC to help identify communities that may need support in emergencies such as hurricanes.
Vaccines will remain in limited supply for a time after Biden is sworn in, so rationing will continue into the spring.
“I think it’s early to say what the Biden and Harris administration will ultimately do on that front,” said Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith, associate dean for health equity research at Yale University's medical school. She co-chairs Biden’s advisory board on the pandemic and has been a leading voice on reducing health disparities for the transition.
Nunez-Smith said there are several data-based models to consider for distributing vaccines to communities hardest hit by the virus.
“Thinking about equity has to be a top priority and cannot be an afterthought in the work,” she said.

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My daughter is an RN and dealing directly with covid patients,  she is also currently dealing with covid herself,  she was informed by the doh that she will still be given a vaccine very soon despite her having natural antibodies but also told that doe to anticipated production shortages that the general population should not expect to see a dose until about this time next year.  They will start with Frontline workers,  then to the elderly and those with underlying health conditions ( think about the obesity problem) and finally they hope to get onto the rest.

But with those that refuse the vaccine this could end up dragging out some time in terms of outbreaks. 

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this is good news!

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@JimmyinSD said:
My daughter is an RN and dealing directly with covid patients,  she is also currently dealing with covid herself,  she was informed by the doh that she will still be given a vaccine very soon despite her having natural antibodies but also told that doe to anticipated production shortages that the general population should not expect to see a dose until about this time next year.  They will start with Frontline workers,  then to the elderly and those with underlying health conditions ( think about the obesity problem) and finally they hope to get onto the rest.

But with those that refuse the vaccine this could end up dragging out some time in terms of outbreaks. 

Regarding that, I went to the dentist today and, like the eye doctor I went to last week, and my daughter's orthodontist the week before, and pretty much every health-related practice, it made me wonder if proof of vaccination might not become part of the screening procedure. Might seem draconian, but it might also provide necessary incentive for the anti-vaxxers.