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Is it Cousins........or his straight cash homey?
#11
Quote: @greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
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#12
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
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#13
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
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#14
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
Absolutely, but I was a kid when he was drafted therefore it doesnt resonate as much as Ponder. Williamson was another one but that WR class was brutal to begin with. The 2011 QB class wasnt very deep either but if my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of really good players in that draft taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Ponder was such a reach and I knew it instantly.
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#15
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
Absolutely, but I was a kid when he was drafted therefore it doesnt resonate as much as Ponder. Williamson was another one but that WR class was brutal to begin with. The 2011 QB class wasnt very deep either but if my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of really good players in that draft taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Ponder was such a reach and I knew it instantly.
You know who loved the Ponder pick? MB. 

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#16
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
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Yup, dropped the ball on that one.
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#17
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
Absolutely, but I was a kid when he was drafted therefore it doesnt resonate as much as Ponder. Williamson was another one but that WR class was brutal to begin with. The 2011 QB class wasnt very deep either but if my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of really good players in that draft taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Ponder was such a reach and I knew it instantly.

I have to say, that is easy to say in hindsight.  Yeah you got that one right, but how many others were you certain on that are now studs?  Just saying, nobody keeps track of their misses.
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#18
Quote: @greediron said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
Absolutely, but I was a kid when he was drafted therefore it doesnt resonate as much as Ponder. Williamson was another one but that WR class was brutal to begin with. The 2011 QB class wasnt very deep either but if my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of really good players in that draft taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Ponder was such a reach and I knew it instantly.

I have to say, that is easy to say in hindsight.  Yeah you got that one right, but how many others were you certain on that are now studs?  Just saying, nobody keeps track of their misses.
I'm not afraid to announce my misses: Thought Laquon would be a stud, considering he tore up the SEC, missed that one. Thought Kalil would be good, and he was, for one year haha. Thought Hughes was going to be good too, may have if healthy, but wrong here.

Ponder was just such an easy bust prediction. No arm strength left, super injury prone in college. Pick was awful at the time and it had me yelling at my tv
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#19
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
@greediron said:
@StickyBun said:
The issue is the team has NOTHING in the pipeline QB-wise. And this upcoming Draft won't help as Minnesota will probably be picking mid-round in the first and have no 2nd. I don't understand how the team is going to allow Cousins to get paid what he's supposed to get paid on the last year of his contract, it's monstrous.

Most glaring issue of Spielman's career.  He has never had a viable young talent in the pipeline.  I don't fault him terribly for the Ponder pick, he had talent, couldn't get out of his own head.  Liked the Teddy pick, we know how that ended.  Thought the Cousins signing was the best option at the time. 

BUT he never had meaningful talent, day 2 picks, in the QB room. 
Oh I will forever fault the idiots who thought Christian Ponder was a top 15 pick. He was a second or third round pick basically on everyone's mock draft, but yeah, let's draft a guy who had to have his elbow drained multiple times in college. That's one of my least favorite Vikings picks of all time, at the moment and after his career was over. Brutal
uhm... have you ever heard of Demetrius Underwood?
Absolutely, but I was a kid when he was drafted therefore it doesnt resonate as much as Ponder. Williamson was another one but that WR class was brutal to begin with. The 2011 QB class wasnt very deep either but if my memory serves me correct, there were a lot of really good players in that draft taken in the 2nd and 3rd round. Ponder was such a reach and I knew it instantly.

I have to say, that is easy to say in hindsight.  Yeah you got that one right, but how many others were you certain on that are now studs?  Just saying, nobody keeps track of their misses.
I'm not afraid to announce my misses: Thought Laquon would be a stud, considering he tore up the SEC, missed that one. Thought Kalil would be good, and he was, for one year haha. Thought Hughes was going to be good too, may have if healthy, but wrong here.

Ponder was just such an easy bust prediction. No arm strength left, super injury prone in college. Pick was awful at the time and it had me yelling at my tv

I will admit my misses are many because I don't pay attention to college.  I am optimistic on most every pick.
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#20
I have to give Cousins props for getting Mack out of bounds after the interception. It's hard to argue to keep him. He is good but probably not good enough and he is not the future of the franchise. They have to get a young qb. The salary sucks because it is a cap killer. It has been such a roller coaster with him. He is not the worst but not the best. It was nice to see him somewhat animated towards the end. He actually won on Monday night so there is that. We'll see what happens.
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