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As unfounded conspiracy theories pile up to challenge the fact that Joe Biden is the projected winner of the 2020 presidential election, the country’s top election security agency is rapidly debunking them.
The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, the federal agency that oversees the security and integrity of election infrastructure, maintains a “ rumor control” blog to correct false claims about elections and voting, which has been particularly active in recent days.
The agency’s head, Chris Krebs, a Trump appointee, is personally actively debunking such claims, such as that officials gave Sharpie markers to some voters to invalidate their ballots ( those ballots are still counted) or the “ hammer and scorecard” conspiracy theory, which holds that a mythical computer system secretly changed votes across the country, inexplicably bypassing audits, the fact that states independently conduct elections, and that most votes were cast on paper ballots.
its funny that there is all this confidence in our election security when on party's candidate won, where was this confidence 4 years ago, or even a couple months ago when hillary was saying to never concede the election, to challenge the results?
This whole thing is a scam, and by thing I mean what our govt and what the media has turned it into.
The only thing that's a scam is Trump's idiotic ramblings about voting fraud. Move the F out of the way, you lost. 4,000,000+ votes more in Biden's favor say as much.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
its funny that there is all this confidence in our election security when on party's candidate won, where was this confidence 4 years ago, or even a couple months ago when hillary was saying to never concede the election, to challenge the results?
This whole thing is a scam, and by thing I mean what our govt and what the media has turned it into.
Oh Jimmy, don't fall down that rabbit hole.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
The only thing that's a scam is Trump's idiotic ramblings about voting fraud. Move the F out of the way, you lost. 4,000,000+ votes more in Biden's favor say as much.
the democratic party spent the last 4 years looking into every imaginable angle to prove the election was stolen from hillary, and in less than a few days Trump supporters are told to get the fuck out of the way? i honestly havent really looked into any of the claim, or even watched any news stations in the last week, but reading this board and a couple others tells me that we arent playing by the same rules and that is fucked up. those that screamed collusion and such for years after Trump one should be the first to STFU right now. if they could act like sore losers then he certainly has the same rights, not to mention if there is any veracity to any of the claims he is making regarding the irregularities in voting numbers... ask yourself, if Biden had been winning on election night by the margins Trump was winning by when all those states decided to stop their counts, and then suddenly when they started counting again the votes when so drastically the other way, wouldnt you wonder WTF happened and at least suspect improprieties? of course you would and you should.
And the Senate white washed all of it.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
And the Senate white washed all of it.
so that election fraud was legit, but any questions now are conspiracy nuts... ok, you have a nice day.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
The only thing that's a scam is Trump's idiotic ramblings about voting fraud. Move the F out of the way, you lost. 4,000,000+ votes more in Biden's favor say as much.
the democratic party spent the last 4 years looking into every imaginable angle to prove the election was stolen from hillary, and in less than a few days Trump supporters are told to get the fuck out of the way? i honestly havent really looked into any of the claim, or even watched any news stations in the last week, but reading this board and a couple others tells me that we arent playing by the same rules and that is fucked up. those that screamed collusion and such for years after Trump one should be the first to STFU right now. if they could act like sore losers then he certainly has the same rights, not to mention if there is any veracity to any of the claims he is making regarding the irregularities in voting numbers... ask yourself, if Biden had been winning on election night by the margins Trump was winning by when all those states decided to stop their counts, and then suddenly when they started counting again the votes when so drastically the other way, wouldnt you wonder WTF happened and at least suspect improprieties? of course you would and you should. Point A:
At the bold... There is a difference between election interference and stealing an election. The appropriate US government institutions investigated election meddling. By democrats I bet you mean the following (note that all of them said there was Russian interference in the 2016 election)...
- U.S. intelligence agencies
- The Senate intelligence committee
- The House intelligence committee
- The Justice Department
- Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats
- Defense Secretary James Mattis
- Former CIA Director Mike Pompeo
- National Security Adviser John Bolton
- White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders
It is extremely hard to have a discussion with people who do not care about facts.
Point B:
At the red part... maybe you first look at the claims being made before you start making demands or drawing conclusions about not playing by the rules. One would one would be versed on the topic before starting an argument. Just an idea.
Point A and B above make the rest of your post just a word salad or should I call it rambling?
P/S: As a side note, the almighty Trump and some Republicans said there was widespread fraud in the 2016 election. A claim that was debunked many times by many groups yet they kept going back to it.
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