Quote: @Nichelle said:
Last night while out I was listening to a local radio station that I'd never heard of before. Since I hardly drive anymore I canceled Sirius so I channel surfed and ran across this. I honestly thought the folks on this station were joking. The comments:
- Biden really looked pale.
- Biden looked pretty thin.
- Trump started off so angry because he has been the victim of lies over the past 4 years and he's angry about it.
- It was so weird that Biden's eyes looked black when they are actually blue.
- It's suspicious that Biden wouldn't let them check for an earpiece. And it turns out that he was actually wired. There are photos!
- Why didn't Biden take a drug test? You have to do that for any other job. He's got to be on drugs.
- Biden is too disrespectful to be president.
- Chris Wallace decided in the first few seconds that he was going to support Biden. He quickly changed the plan and was anti-Trump the whole debate.
I really did think they were kidding at first, especially about Biden's weight and skin tone. But they were dead serious. Have they looked at the orange man for so long that normal, human skin tones look odd?
Then last night, Trump claimed at his rally that Biden is refusing to participate in the next debates. There has been no such statement from the Biden camp. In fact, he has said the opposite.
My ballot arrived yesterday. It will be in by tomorrow.
Sounds familiar. I used to be addicted to right wing media in the 90s. I used to record show's on Fox--O'Reilly, Hannity. Listened to Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt, Prager, Savage, and the biggest blockhead of them all, Mark Levin.
I'd probably need a shrink to explain why I did that. I studied media in college, so maybe that has something to do with it.
But if you want an explanation for Trump, it's in the above media. Now, I'm not talking about republicans, or even conservatives. Nothing at all wrong with that. I'm talking specifically about Trumpism. The kind of xenophobic, anti-science, conspiracy-fueled nonsense we see so much of right now.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Nichelle said:
Last night while out I was listening to a local radio station that I'd never heard of before. Since I hardly drive anymore I canceled Sirius so I channel surfed and ran across this. I honestly thought the folks on this station were joking. The comments:
- Biden really looked pale.
- Biden looked pretty thin.
- Trump started off so angry because he has been the victim of lies over the past 4 years and he's angry about it.
- It was so weird that Biden's eyes looked black when they are actually blue.
- It's suspicious that Biden wouldn't let them check for an earpiece. And it turns out that he was actually wired. There are photos!
- Why didn't Biden take a drug test? You have to do that for any other job. He's got to be on drugs.
- Biden is too disrespectful to be president.
- Chris Wallace decided in the first few seconds that he was going to support Biden. He quickly changed the plan and was anti-Trump the whole debate.
I really did think they were kidding at first, especially about Biden's weight and skin tone. But they were dead serious. Have they looked at the orange man for so long that normal, human skin tones look odd?
Then last night, Trump claimed at his rally that Biden is refusing to participate in the next debates. There has been no such statement from the Biden camp. In fact, he has said the opposite.
My ballot arrived yesterday. It will be in by tomorrow.
Sounds familiar. I used to be addicted to right wing media in the 90s. I used to record show's on Fox--O'Reilly, Hannity. Listened to Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt, Prager, Savage, and the biggest blockhead of them all, Mark Levin.
I'd probably need a shrink to explain why I did that. I studied media in college, so maybe that has something to do with it.
But if you want an explanation for Trump, it's in the above media. Now, I'm not talking about republicans, or even conservatives. Nothing at all wrong with that. I'm talking specifically about Trumpism. The kind of xenophobic, anti-science, conspiracy-fueled nonsense we see so much of right now.
Right with you man. University conservative voice here at, 2001-2005 (9/11, Iraq War, the fun days on campus double majoring in Poli Sci and Communications). Used to be a big fan of Fox News (Krystol, Krauthammer, Kasich, Wallace, Shep Smith, even OReilly for most commentary.
That all ended in 08 when the party moved away from McCain and more into hate of Obama. Romney wasn't angry enough for them in 2012, that's when I knew it was the beginning of the end of the classic conservative movement and my alignment with it.
So you two are admitting you were duped once...
Quote: @greediron said:
So you two are admitting you were duped once...
Duped? I still believe in center left and center right republicans. It was the sliding right / far right of the GOP that pushed me to the left.
-Lack of compassion for others that do not look like you-Telling people who they can sleep with, who they can have a union with-Telling people what they can do with their bodies-Pushing back on cannabis, pushing for the war on drugs vs individual liberty and government minding its own business-Lack of reaching across the aisle for the benefit of people over party
-Corporate welfare and the military industrial complex game over small business
These things are where the republicans and I split
The far left and their insane identity politics / post modernism takes is why I won't ever be able to subscribe to the left either. Plenty of people, plenty of us in the middle to turn this around and bring the country back together.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ Nichelle said:
Last night while out I was listening to a local radio station that I'd never heard of before. Since I hardly drive anymore I canceled Sirius so I channel surfed and ran across this. I honestly thought the folks on this station were joking. The comments:
- Biden really looked pale.
- Biden looked pretty thin.
- Trump started off so angry because he has been the victim of lies over the past 4 years and he's angry about it.
- It was so weird that Biden's eyes looked black when they are actually blue.
- It's suspicious that Biden wouldn't let them check for an earpiece. And it turns out that he was actually wired. There are photos!
- Why didn't Biden take a drug test? You have to do that for any other job. He's got to be on drugs.
- Biden is too disrespectful to be president.
- Chris Wallace decided in the first few seconds that he was going to support Biden. He quickly changed the plan and was anti-Trump the whole debate.
I really did think they were kidding at first, especially about Biden's weight and skin tone. But they were dead serious. Have they looked at the orange man for so long that normal, human skin tones look odd?
Then last night, Trump claimed at his rally that Biden is refusing to participate in the next debates. There has been no such statement from the Biden camp. In fact, he has said the opposite.
My ballot arrived yesterday. It will be in by tomorrow.
Sounds familiar. I used to be addicted to right wing media in the 90s. I used to record show's on Fox--O'Reilly, Hannity. Listened to Limbaugh, Hugh Hewitt, Prager, Savage, and the biggest blockhead of them all, Mark Levin.
I'd probably need a shrink to explain why I did that. I studied media in college, so maybe that has something to do with it.
But if you want an explanation for Trump, it's in the above media. Now, I'm not talking about republicans, or even conservatives. Nothing at all wrong with that. I'm talking specifically about Trumpism. The kind of xenophobic, anti-science, conspiracy-fueled nonsense we see so much of right now.
Right with you man. University conservative voice here at, 2001-2005 (9/11, Iraq War, the fun days on campus double majoring in Poli Sci and Communications). Used to be a big fan of Fox News (Krystol, Krauthammer, Kasich, Wallace, Shep Smith, even OReilly for most commentary.
That all ended in 08 when the party moved away from McCain and more into hate of Obama. Romney wasn't angry enough for them in 2012, that's when I knew it was the beginning of the end of the classic conservative movement and my alignment with it.
Well, to clarify, I didn't listen because I agreed with them. I was a republican in the 80s. But by the time the 90s rolled around, I was very much a liberal democrat. A "card-carrying member of the ACLU," to use a common criticism back then. :-) In fact, it was Limbaugh and those like him that turned me into a lefty. I remember thinking, "whatever THIS is, I want no part of."
No, I listened because I was fascinated by how manipulative and hypocritical they were...many of them carrying the cross of Jesus with them while promoting divisiveness, greed, hate, arrogance, bigotry, etc. How Limbaugh would add just enough artificial bombast so that he could claim his racist and misogynist rants were just "jokes." Or how O'Reilly would feign disgust about some titillating segment that allowed him to run the "sexy" B-roll that his audiences loved. How both he and Hugh Hewitt would add esoteric vocabulary and literary segments to give their shows an air of intellectualism despite how base and mean-spirited they were.
Limbaugh almost single-handedly turned the word "liberal" into a pejorative. It's precisely why I call myself a liberal and refuse to use the more compromising word "progressive." Fuck Limbaugh. I'm a liberal and all my political heroes are liberals: Roosevelt, Kennedy, MLK, Carter, RBG, Obama....
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ greediron said:
So you two are admitting you were duped once...
Duped? I still believe in center left and center right republicans. It was the sliding right / far right of the GOP that pushed me to the left.
-Lack of compassion for others that do not look like you-Telling people who they can sleep with, who they can have a union with- Telling people what they can do with their bodies- Pushing back on cannabis, pushing for the war on drugs vs individual liberty and government minding its own business-Lack of reaching across the aisle for the benefit of people over party
- Corporate welfare and the military industrial complex game over small business
These things are where the republicans and I split
The far left and their insane identity politics / post modernism takes is why I won't ever be able to subscribe to the left either. Plenty of people, plenty of us in the middle to turn this around and bring the country back together.
But you like Biden and Harris? Masks, Harris as AG, shutdown proponents, Biden has been in politics for nearly 50 years.
Dookay. I will stay with my question, you admit you were duped ONCE?
Quote: @greediron said:
@ Skodin said:
@ greediron said:
So you two are admitting you were duped once...
Duped? I still believe in center left and center right republicans. It was the sliding right / far right of the GOP that pushed me to the left.
-Lack of compassion for others that do not look like you-Telling people who they can sleep with, who they can have a union with- Telling people what they can do with their bodies- Pushing back on cannabis, pushing for the war on drugs vs individual liberty and government minding its own business-Lack of reaching across the aisle for the benefit of people over party
- Corporate welfare and the military industrial complex game over small business
These things are where the republicans and I split
The far left and their insane identity politics / post modernism takes is why I won't ever be able to subscribe to the left either. Plenty of people, plenty of us in the middle to turn this around and bring the country back together.
But you like Biden and Harris? Masks, Harris as AG, shutdown proponents, Biden has been in politics for nearly 50 years.
Dookay. I will stay with my question, you admit you were duped ONCE?
No, I actually didn't want either of them as the democratic choices. I was pretty clear in supporting Andrew Yang, Tom Steyer, and Pete. They were democrats that felt like the new party, but they ended with Biden and Harris. I didn't want Harris as VP either, thought Val Demmings would have been a great choice.
But I know what I am getting with these two, we have no idea where we are heading with Trump and the way McConnell, Jordan, Cruz are taking their party/country.
You don't like masks? Do you feel its kinda weird that little democrats have received covid? That we are only hearing about the GOP members with it?
Much better debate last night. No matter which side you're on, you have to agree that it was good to see an actual conversation about issues instead of the loud and furious donnybook that occurred a couple weeks ago. Shame about the fly. There are close ups that show it's holding a Biden Harris sign. For realz.
For 5 years I've said that this is not about politics. Not about red v. blue, republican v. democrat. It's about preventing (now removing) a dangerously unfit man from the White House. In terms of public policy, I probably disagree with Pence more than I do Trump, but at least he's sane.
Or...put another way....
“Trump is what he is, a floundering, inarticulate jumble of gnawing insecurities and not-at-all compensating vanities, which is pathetic. Pence is what he has chosen to be, which is horrifying.” - George Will
Unfortunately, the more liberal media is just as bad as their competition across the spectrum when they focus on the stupid fucking fly. Its petty and immature. Pence's hair is stiff, like most older men and a fly just as easily could have landed in Kamala's hair and she wouldn't have noticed shit. I'd normally say its just playful, but its politics so it sure as hell isn't that. What that means to me with that focus is that Pence held up extremely well in the debate.
Fox News may be more blatantly biased but don't think the CNNs and NBCs aren't extremely biased also, but they think they are being so clever about it. The whole news media sickens me. The political ads, which I'm being inundated with here in Florida, are grotesque no matter the party. 7 billion dollars in political advertising?? Are you f*cking kidding me?? You know how much real good could be done with that kind of money?
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