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If we start over with coaching
#11
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
if there is a list I would hope Eric Bieniemy, would be near the top.  Only way anything happens is if Zim walks away, health, physical or mental, either would work.
Can he count to 12 yet?  Y'all forget that 09 championship game already? It's only been 11 years now  :p


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#12
Quote: @PurpleCrush said:
I doubt it will happen. 3 year extension that kicks in after this season...no way Wilfs pony up for that. A part of me thinks the team kind of had an idea it might be a tough go this year, but that's jmo.
I think owners rarely feel handcuffed by coaches’ salaries. They fired both Childress and Frazier less than a year after giving them extensions. I see estimates Zimmer makes about $5M a year - that’s about what Shamar Stephen makes this year, for perspective.
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#13
I fully expect Zimmer to be coaching next year. He won't be fired for this one bad year. But he'll be gone with 2 back to back. 
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#14
Quote: @TBro said:
the TE's are mysteriously not involved in the Game Plan    
Seriously!
Is our O-line so bad that Rudolph can't run the same 10 yard curl route he's been running for us for the past decade?
I don't get it. Also, the WRs aren't good. Ok. So we put Dalvin out wide this week. Ok. The next logical step would be to, I don't know, throw it to him??? Really frustrating watching that offense yesterday.
At least we didn't dial up Tajae Sharpe at a critical moment, so that's progress I guess.
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#15
The TE's either cant get any separation or they are being left in for max pass pro.

Maybe both?

Bisi or Jefferson has to step-up. Asking that of JJ with no to little pre-season is a bit much.  

Bisi has been a huge disappointment so far - either that or KC isn't looking his way. Which I dont know why he wouldn't with D's rolling coverage to AT like they are. 
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#16
P.J. Fleck would be my choice.
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#17
With all the roster turnover, I think they knew that taking a step back this year was a possibility. I think they thought they would still field a good team, but having Pierce out, Hunter and Barr on the IR, your best receiver force a trade, & the fallout from Covid has upped the difficulty. I still want to see the team make progress over the season, but there are enough extenuating circumstances, that I don't think a potentially bad season leads to a change.
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#18
Quote: @Carl Knowles said:
P.J. Fleck would be my choice.
His schtick wouldn't transfer to the NFL. 
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#19
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@Carl Knowles said:
P.J. Fleck would be my choice.
His schtick wouldn't transfer to the NFL. 
I can handle Fleck for 3.4 minutes at a time before I'd walk on him.

I had to listen to him for 45 minutes at one of our National Sales Meetings..


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#20
Quote: @Tyr said:
With all the roster turnover, I think they knew that taking a step back this year was a possibility. I think they thought they would still field a good team, but having Pierce out, Hunter and Barr on the IR, your best receiver force a trade, & the fallout from Covid has upped the difficulty. I still want to see the team make progress over the season, but there are enough extenuating circumstances, that I don't think a potentially bad season leads to a change.

That's definitely possible, but there have been a lot of seasons where some excuse was given: Peterson suspended, our OL has too many injuries, Cook is hurt...all teams have injuries, at some point you have to win regardless.
As for this being a "planned" semi-rebuild year, I don't see it. If that was the case, why trade for Ngakoue, who is on a one-year deal and might leave next winter if he didn't like his sample of the Vikings? Why sign Pierce? Why give Cook a deal that just pushes more cap space into future years? Why give Cousins an extension that makes it hard to part with him before 2022? These are "win in 2020" moves. I think Spielman has always pushed the Wilfs with the idea they can be competitive this year, and it's why he traded for Bradford instead of taking a rebuild year when Bridgewater got hurt, and why he convinced them to sign Cousins.

As for Covid: every team is dealing with it, what's different for the Vikings? And I have to ask why many people think NFL owners like the Wilfs will see this as a year that can be forgiven/ignored. They are losing money on attendance - don't you think they want playoff money? Don't you think they want to have a good 2020 record to encourage people to return to the stadiums in 2021? I do not know ANY business that is openly saying, "it's ok to be bad this year". Accepting it when necessary, yes...but the NFL is aiming to send some teams to the playoffs and Super Bowl, so how is there an excuse for not being competitive in 2021?
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