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Ngakoue to Vikings
#51
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
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I agree with this, I dont think the Vikings fleeced the Jags...Now if he ends-up being another Danielle Hunter? I can say we got good ROI. Maybe not a win/win for both franchises, but the Jags shouldn't be embarrassed by this at all.


How would you feel if the Vikings traded Hunter away for a 2nd and conditional 5th?
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#52
The defense will be interesting this year. Adding another pass rusher will help a lot and hopefully the can cover for the youth at CB and current mess at DT.
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#53
Quote: @rf54 said:
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I agree with this, I dont think the Vikings fleeced the Jags...Now if he ends-up being another Danielle Hunter? I can say we got good ROI. Maybe not a win/win for both franchises, but the Jags shouldn't be embarrassed by this at all.


How would you feel if the Vikings traded Hunter away for a 2nd and conditional 5th?
Not happy, but the Jags had to make a deal and that was as nasty a situation as Diggs/Vikings. They were facing making a deal now or having him walk away with little to no compensation next year. 
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#54
League still has to formally approve this correct???

The deal parameters as well as how the Vikings are going to fit him in this year?

Anyone else expect to hear of another Viking contract re-negotiated to pull this off within the cap?
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#55
Trade benefits Vikings both obviously and cynicallyThe Vikings’ trade for Yannick Ngakoue looks like a smart move on many levels, one that should improve a good defense and could alter the future of a needy offense.
The Vikings acquired a prolific young edge rusher who specializes in forcing fumbles for a couple of draft picks, after acquiring a few picks in the Stefon Diggs trade. If you want to view these deals as essentially a trade of a talented receiver who didn’t want to play for the Vikings for a disgruntled defensive end who is willing to take a pay cut to play for the Vikings, that’s a win for the organization.
The Vikings will get to bookend Ngakoue with the great Danielle Hunter, and while this development is not ideal for Ifeadi Odenigbo, who expected to play that role, the increased quality depth at defensive end will give the Vikings the ability to rest their pass rushers or employ extra rushers on the line in obvious passing situations.
Odenigbo is a fine young player, but he is relatively undersized and could be better as a part-time player than a starter — and he excelled as a part-time player in 2019.
An improved pass rush could be ideal for a group of young cornerbacks who will be tested all season, especially with the season starting with an important game against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
There is another, more cynical way that the trade for Ngakoue could benefit the Vikings:
It could keep them from making a mistake in signing running back Dalvin Cook to a long-term contract.
I feel guilty even typing that sentence. Cook is a wonderful player and a team leader. He puts himself at risk every time he touches the ball, and sometimes when he doesn’t. If the word “deserves” applies to professional sports, then Cook deserves to be compensated as the Vikings’ best offensive player and the player around whom they built their offense.
But the Vikings aren’t in the business of paying players what they “deserve.” They’re in the business of winning games while staying under the salary cap, and Ngakoue’s arrival could mean the end of meaningful negotiations with Cook.
After trading two draft picks for a key player, the Vikings are bound to try to sign Ngakoue to a long-term deal. After negotiations between the Vikings and Cook faltered, this gives General Manager Rick Spielman reason to not resume those talks.
And, cynically, that could be great for the franchise.
If the Vikings had paid Cook what he believes he’s worth, the extension probably would have totaled something like four years and about $50 million.
Is Cook worth that? Only if he remains healthy and productive and retains his current level of explosiveness, and fits into the team’s salary structure while NFL teams face the possibility of a reduced salary cap because of financial losses caused by the pandemic.
If Cook were injured or lost a step he would look something like current backup Alexander Mattison — a fine young player unlikely to ever command $50 million.
If the Vikings don’t sign Cook to an extension, Cook will be highly motivated to prove his worth this season, and if he excels again, the team could retain him for another season by placing the franchise tag on him.
Instead of signing him for four more years and praying he can stay healthy and explosive, the Vikings will get Cook for a cap-hit figure of about $2 million this year.
If Cook performs so well this season that the Vikings feel compelled to sign him to a long-term deal, they can find a way. NFL teams always find a way to sign the players they most value, unless they’re so dysfunctional that players want out.
Having two dynamic, productive 25-year-old edge rushers is ideal for Mike Zimmer and his defensive staff, and provides a better way to build a winner than throwing money at a running back, even if the running back is the exceptional Dalvin Cook.
https://www.startribune.com/trade-benefi...572268662/
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#57
This is VERY exciting news. they were rightly  concerned with the interior pass rush and Odenigbo will likely see alot of interior snaps as well as spelling the starters. Brilliant move.  
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#58
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ArizonaViking said:
I would not be surprised considering the Viking's salary cap issues, that someone will be traded in the next few days to off-balance Ngakoue's salary...

Word is they want to renegotiate Reiff's contract.
This could be relevant...  B) 
EAGAN, Minn. — The Vikings got back to work Sunday, practicing for nearly two hours in full pads at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance Center.
It was a presumed vet day for a handful of offensive players, as Adam Thielen, Kyle Rudolph and Riley Reiff did not practice.
Tackle Rashod Hill and defensive ends Danielle Hunter and Kenny Willekes also did not practice. Neither did linebacker Ben Gedeon, who is currently on the Active/Physically Unable to Perform List.
Sunday's practice was the last full session open to the media. There is limited availability going forward.
1. Shuffling the O-line
With Reiff and Hill not practicing, the Vikings had a different look at tackle.
Brian O'Neill switched to the left side, which allowed Oli Udoh to bump up to the right side with the first team. The interior of Dakota Dozier, Garrett Bradbury and Pat Elflein remained intact from past practices.
Dozier took all of the first-team reps at left guard, and Aviante Collins spent practice as the second-team left tackle. Ezra Cleveland stayed at left guard, and was next to center Brett Jones, right guard Dru Samia and right tackle Blake Brandel with the second unit.
Dozier, Elflein, Udoh and Jones were impressive in 1-on-1 drills, as were defensive linemen Ifeadi Odenigbo, D.J. Wonnum and Eddie Yarbrough.
https://www.vikings.com/news/offensive-line-2020-training-camp

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#59
Odenigbo and his agent are whining about this move. I personally never thought he was a full time player and is better served being a DE/DT that plays on run downs and gives occasional pressure. I think he's a limited player (Odenigbo). 
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#60
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Odenigbo and his agent are whining about this move. I personally never thought he was a full time player and is better served being a DE/DT that plays on run downs and gives occasional pressure. I think he's a limited player (Odenigbo). 
He was so effective last year in a part time role, shifting inside and out. I think we would've been disappointed with Odenigbo in a full-time role. We still don't have a significant inside pass rushing threat, so I think that's going to be his thing: 3T on passing downs. 
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