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White guy holding a BLM sign
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
No surprise to me, doesn’t have to be the heart of Klan territory to find that level of ignorance.  

I have been saying it for years, a large portion of Americans are dumb.

Poorly educated, disgustingly fed, brainwashed by media, willfully ignorant.

Love this country’s principals, our ideals, our history of leadership, losing faith in its people.  It is going to be a rough ride the next couple of years.
and its a damn good thing we have those poorly educated and such, that people in ivory towers like to look down upon,  its on their backs that this country was made and continues to rely on to do the jobs that most wouldn't do (or couldn't do) if they had to.

as far as racism... the poor and under-educated hardly have exclusive rights to bigotry.... plenty of people in your ivory towers would wear that label (as long as it was tailor made and not off the rack)
Jimmy, the seeds of racism take root in that kind of thinking. The kind of thinking that separates "real" America from those who live in cities, in "ivory towers," the "liberals," the educated, the "elites" that they hate so much. 
what kind of thinking?  that people arent less because of their education levels?  that people arent less because they have a poor diet?   that some how a higher education makes a person unable to be racist or brain washed by the media?

racism isnt a political matter,  its not a matter that is corrected by education... fuck some of the most bigoted pieces of shit in this country are likely carrying around Masters degrees or higher,  and I'm quite certain that all those KKK members dont necessarily vote red... or that racism ends with the KKK or with a lack of pigment in a persons skin.

you know what separates America... its the notion that one side in above all this shit and the rest are scum... fuck that shit and any arrogant fucker that tries to imply it.

Oh boy, you've invaded their safe space.......
So there was some fucked up shit said in that video but you know what?  I can stand outside with any sign that says anything and get people to say stupid shit.  Heck I've been that guy before and not had anything even controversial on said sign. It just so happened to be before everyone had access to good video equipment.
Speaking of equipment.  That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving.
Man stands in front of a white pride billboard holding a BLM sign and gets an earful of hateful and racist threats: The rest of America is shocked and disgusted. Trump's America thinks these are the people who built America.  Kid with sign thinks he's better than them. People say stupid shit all the time. Audio probably manipulated.

This is the America we live in now, where obviously despicable behavior is no longer universally condemned but excused and defended and rationalized, while the messenger of such behavior questioned.

where is it stated that these are the people built America?  The poorly educated built this country,  that is who I was defending not bigotry.  just because some poorly educated happen to be bigots doesnt mean that they all are,  or that bigotry ends with institutional education.

Its nice that people have to try and manipulate everything that gets said around here to create division and fighting...

fuck it,  have a nice time.
I don't think MB's comment was directed at you, it was in response to AGR I think?
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#32
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
No surprise to me, doesn’t have to be the heart of Klan territory to find that level of ignorance.  

I have been saying it for years, a large portion of Americans are dumb.

Poorly educated, disgustingly fed, brainwashed by media, willfully ignorant.

Love this country’s principals, our ideals, our history of leadership, losing faith in its people.  It is going to be a rough ride the next couple of years.
and its a damn good thing we have those poorly educated and such, that people in ivory towers like to look down upon,  its on their backs that this country was made and continues to rely on to do the jobs that most wouldn't do (or couldn't do) if they had to.

as far as racism... the poor and under-educated hardly have exclusive rights to bigotry.... plenty of people in your ivory towers would wear that label (as long as it was tailor made and not off the rack)
Jimmy, the seeds of racism take root in that kind of thinking. The kind of thinking that separates "real" America from those who live in cities, in "ivory towers," the "liberals," the educated, the "elites" that they hate so much. 
what kind of thinking?  that people arent less because of their education levels?  that people arent less because they have a poor diet?   that some how a higher education makes a person unable to be racist or brain washed by the media?

racism isnt a political matter,  its not a matter that is corrected by education... fuck some of the most bigoted pieces of shit in this country are likely carrying around Masters degrees or higher,  and I'm quite certain that all those KKK members dont necessarily vote red... or that racism ends with the KKK or with a lack of pigment in a persons skin.

you know what separates America... its the notion that one side in above all this shit and the rest are scum... fuck that shit and any arrogant fucker that tries to imply it.

Oh boy, you've invaded their safe space.......
So there was some fucked up shit said in that video but you know what?  I can stand outside with any sign that says anything and get people to say stupid shit.  Heck I've been that guy before and not had anything even controversial on said sign. It just so happened to be before everyone had access to good video equipment.
Speaking of equipment.  That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving.
Man stands in front of a white pride billboard holding a BLM sign and gets an earful of hateful and racist threats: The rest of America is shocked and disgusted. Trump's America thinks these are the people who built America.  Kid with sign thinks he's better than them. People say stupid shit all the time. Audio probably manipulated.

This is the America we live in now, where obviously despicable behavior is no longer universally condemned but excused and defended and rationalized, while the messenger of such behavior questioned.


I never said the audio was manipulated.  My wife does a bunch of live stream videos for her business.  Its outdoors (horses) and in the elements.  Thats a damn good microphone that picked that up.  It would have been to much work to manipulate the audio from their source material when its easy to find stupid people willing to say anything.  I'm sorry for being interested in filming...but thank you for assuming the worst. 

If we're supposed to "condemn" stupid shit we would be condemning till we turn blue in the face and it wouldn't change what was said or who said it.  To the best of my knowledge I wasn't one of those hillbillies saying that stuff so I'm not really sure what you want?  Track them down and tell them they're naughty?  Email their place of employment and get them fired?  Take away Christmas?  What is your preferred outcome here?

As Jimmy said, you guys sit here with you holier then thou attitudes and all it does is drive us further apart. 

But how about this:  All racists can go suck big giant, hairy, sweaty Packer balls.  I don't care what color the racist offender is or what color the offended person is.  All racists suck. 
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#33
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
No surprise to me, doesn’t have to be the heart of Klan territory to find that level of ignorance.  

I have been saying it for years, a large portion of Americans are dumb.

Poorly educated, disgustingly fed, brainwashed by media, willfully ignorant.

Love this country’s principals, our ideals, our history of leadership, losing faith in its people.  It is going to be a rough ride the next couple of years.
and its a damn good thing we have those poorly educated and such, that people in ivory towers like to look down upon,  its on their backs that this country was made and continues to rely on to do the jobs that most wouldn't do (or couldn't do) if they had to.

as far as racism... the poor and under-educated hardly have exclusive rights to bigotry.... plenty of people in your ivory towers would wear that label (as long as it was tailor made and not off the rack)
Jimmy, the seeds of racism take root in that kind of thinking. The kind of thinking that separates "real" America from those who live in cities, in "ivory towers," the "liberals," the educated, the "elites" that they hate so much. 
what kind of thinking?  that people arent less because of their education levels?  that people arent less because they have a poor diet?   that some how a higher education makes a person unable to be racist or brain washed by the media?

racism isnt a political matter,  its not a matter that is corrected by education... fuck some of the most bigoted pieces of shit in this country are likely carrying around Masters degrees or higher,  and I'm quite certain that all those KKK members dont necessarily vote red... or that racism ends with the KKK or with a lack of pigment in a persons skin.

you know what separates America... its the notion that one side in above all this shit and the rest are scum... fuck that shit and any arrogant fucker that tries to imply it.

Oh boy, you've invaded their safe space.......
So there was some fucked up shit said in that video but you know what?  I can stand outside with any sign that says anything and get people to say stupid shit.  Heck I've been that guy before and not had anything even controversial on said sign. It just so happened to be before everyone had access to good video equipment.
Speaking of equipment.  That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving.
Man stands in front of a white pride billboard holding a BLM sign and gets an earful of hateful and racist threats: The rest of America is shocked and disgusted. Trump's America thinks these are the people who built America.  Kid with sign thinks he's better than them. People say stupid shit all the time. Audio probably manipulated.

This is the America we live in now, where obviously despicable behavior is no longer universally condemned but excused and defended and rationalized, while the messenger of such behavior questioned.


I never said the audio was manipulated.  My wife does a bunch of live stream videos for her business.  Its outdoors (horses) and in the elements.  Thats a damn good microphone that picked that up.  It would have been to much work to manipulate the audio from their source material when its easy to find stupid people willing to say anything.  I'm sorry for being interested in filming...but thank you for assuming the worst. 

If we're supposed to "condemn" stupid shit we would be condemning till we turn blue in the face and it wouldn't change what was said or who said it.  To the best of my knowledge I wasn't one of those hillbillies saying that stuff so I'm not really sure what you want?  Track them down and tell them they're naughty?  Email their place of employment and get them fired?  Take away Christmas?  What is your preferred outcome here?

As Jimmy said, you guys sit here with you holier then thou attitudes and all it does is drive us further apart. 

But how about this:  All racists can go suck big giant, hairy, sweaty Packer balls.  I don't care what color the racist offender is or what color the offended person is.  All racists suck. 
Are you for real? So this comment" "That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving" was meant only as an appreciation of filming technology? Uh huh. 

What's even funnier is that you expect us to accept that. And THEN you go on to condemn racism, but only after reminding us that black people can be racist, too. I'll assume--actually I don't even have to assume--that you considered "grab them by the pussy" as acceptable locker room talk and not misogynistic in the least.

And, yes, if hating the kind of racism displayed in this video (or in charlottesville, or on that bus) instead of rationalizing it or defending it or saying there are bad people on both sides, makes me "holier than thou," I'll own that. Hell, I'll stitch it on a fucking pillow. 
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#34
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
No surprise to me, doesn’t have to be the heart of Klan territory to find that level of ignorance.  

I have been saying it for years, a large portion of Americans are dumb.

Poorly educated, disgustingly fed, brainwashed by media, willfully ignorant.

Love this country’s principals, our ideals, our history of leadership, losing faith in its people.  It is going to be a rough ride the next couple of years.
and its a damn good thing we have those poorly educated and such, that people in ivory towers like to look down upon,  its on their backs that this country was made and continues to rely on to do the jobs that most wouldn't do (or couldn't do) if they had to.

as far as racism... the poor and under-educated hardly have exclusive rights to bigotry.... plenty of people in your ivory towers would wear that label (as long as it was tailor made and not off the rack)
Jimmy, the seeds of racism take root in that kind of thinking. The kind of thinking that separates "real" America from those who live in cities, in "ivory towers," the "liberals," the educated, the "elites" that they hate so much. 
what kind of thinking?  that people arent less because of their education levels?  that people arent less because they have a poor diet?   that some how a higher education makes a person unable to be racist or brain washed by the media?

racism isnt a political matter,  its not a matter that is corrected by education... fuck some of the most bigoted pieces of shit in this country are likely carrying around Masters degrees or higher,  and I'm quite certain that all those KKK members dont necessarily vote red... or that racism ends with the KKK or with a lack of pigment in a persons skin.

you know what separates America... its the notion that one side in above all this shit and the rest are scum... fuck that shit and any arrogant fucker that tries to imply it.

Oh boy, you've invaded their safe space.......
So there was some fucked up shit said in that video but you know what?  I can stand outside with any sign that says anything and get people to say stupid shit.  Heck I've been that guy before and not had anything even controversial on said sign. It just so happened to be before everyone had access to good video equipment.
Speaking of equipment.  That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving.
Man stands in front of a white pride billboard holding a BLM sign and gets an earful of hateful and racist threats: The rest of America is shocked and disgusted. Trump's America thinks these are the people who built America.  Kid with sign thinks he's better than them. People say stupid shit all the time. Audio probably manipulated.

This is the America we live in now, where obviously despicable behavior is no longer universally condemned but excused and defended and rationalized, while the messenger of such behavior questioned.


I never said the audio was manipulated.  My wife does a bunch of live stream videos for her business.  Its outdoors (horses) and in the elements.  Thats a damn good microphone that picked that up.  It would have been to much work to manipulate the audio from their source material when its easy to find stupid people willing to say anything.  I'm sorry for being interested in filming...but thank you for assuming the worst. 

If we're supposed to "condemn" stupid shit we would be condemning till we turn blue in the face and it wouldn't change what was said or who said it.  To the best of my knowledge I wasn't one of those hillbillies saying that stuff so I'm not really sure what you want?  Track them down and tell them they're naughty?  Email their place of employment and get them fired?  Take away Christmas?  What is your preferred outcome here?

As Jimmy said, you guys sit here with you holier then thou attitudes and all it does is drive us further apart. 

But how about this:  All racists can go suck big giant, hairy, sweaty Packer balls.  I don't care what color the racist offender is or what color the offended person is.  All racists suck. 
Are you for real? So this comment" "That was one heck of a microphone to pick up voices that good while someone was driving" was meant only as an appreciation of filming technology? Uh huh. 

What's even funnier is that you expect us to accept that. And THEN you go on to condemn racism, but only after reminding us that black people can be racist, too. I'll assume--actually I don't even have to assume--that you considered "grab them by the pussy" as acceptable locker room talk and not misogynistic in the least.

And, yes, if hating the kind of racism displayed in this video (or in charlottesville, or on that bus) instead of rationalizing it or defending it or saying there are bad people on both sides, makes me "holier than thou," I'll own that. Hell, I'll stitch it on a fucking pillow. 
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Do you need me to take a picture of what I'm working on right now?  We've spent $10's of thousands (kinda sickening to think about it actually) over the years on different cameras and mic's. So yes that is exactly what I meant.  I'm sorry if I didn't articulate it well enough.  If you're ever in the market I can give you some advice.  Might not be good advice but I'll certainly share my experiences. 

Racism exists everywhere from every shade of color towards every shade of color.  It has been happening since the beginning of time and it will be going on long after we've all departed this wonderful rock. 

I have never in my life condoned Trump's pussy comments.  I didn't vote for the Cheeto.  If you must know I voted for Gary Johnson.  But again, thank you for assuming.  It shows that Jimmy is right and you're not really interesting in helping anyone who's oppressed but rather dividing us all so that you can do hi-fives with your bro's while telling them how enlightened you are.

There are good people on all side of the political paradigm.  I'd like to think most people are good and the bad apples are the ones that end up on youtube videos being douchebags. 

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#35
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.


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#36
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.

I mean the guy you're going to replace the Cheeto with is one of the biggest racists in politics.  Trumps "cult" hasn't cornered anything.  At most Trump has given a platform from which to speak but the offenders were racists before Trump they'll be racists after. 

Honest question:  Are you calling the 63M people that did vote for Trump racists?
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#37
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@SFVikeFan said:
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.

I mean the guy you're going to replace the Cheeto with is one of the biggest racists in politics.  Trumps "cult" hasn't cornered anything.  At most Trump has given a platform from which to speak but the offenders were racists before Trump they'll be racists after. 

Honest question:  Are you calling the 63M people that did vote for Trump racists?
Since you missed the point the first time I will repeat myself and type slower:

Not all Trump supporters are racist, but nearly all racists are Trump supporters.  


“Trump has given a platform to speak”

What the fuck does that even mean?  Trump invented freedom of speech?  

Biden says stupid shit too but compared to Trump’s nearly daily racist rants - just like his shit today about the suburbs are under attack - he’s a saint.  


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#38
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.
Based on the vocal minority and the country bending to their whims.. it certainly seems you are correct.
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#39
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@SFVikeFan said:
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.
Based on the vocal minority and the country bending to their whims.. it certainly seems you are correct.

Hillary got more votes, so what minority do you speak of. 
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#40
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@SFVikeFan said:
There’s good people on both sides, sure.

Where have I heard that line before?


Sorry but while there are some racist elements in nearly every faction of Americans, Trump and his cult of supporters HANDS DOWN HAVE THE FUCKING MARKET CORNERED ON RACISM.


Sorry if this reality isn’t what you like to read and don’t care to admit, so now you circle back to marginalizing it again.

“Holier than thou” and “white ivory towers” for speaking out against racism ... this fucking country is hopelessly lost.
Based on the vocal minority and the country bending to their whims.. it certainly seems you are correct.

Hillary got more votes, so what minority do you speak of. 
Pretty sure I'm taking about you Al.  :p
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