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Fauci
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Is he legit or has he become a political tool?

I am sure he doesnt care for Trump,  but is that affecting his decision making process, or is he just an alarmist by nature?   There are many parts of the country that have shown that its fine to start to roll back the restrictions,  and honestly the way they keep having to redraw these projections after they are repeatedly wrong I wonder how much was of the over projections have been due to the positive affects of the quarantine vs the science just plain missing the numbers.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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#2
follow the money.  He is in deep with Gates and required vaccines.  He has been a key cog in DC for a long time.
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#3
Quote: @greediron said:
follow the money.  He is in deep with Gates and required vaccines.  He has been a key cog in DC for a long time.
I am trying not to be as cynical in a time of crisis,  but the more I read the more I am lead to go along with those that are crying foul.   there are certainly some things he has said that are merited,  but now I think he is just another political puppet that is being used to political or monetary gain.  the problem is he is he seems affable and if Trump were to boot his ass out it would certainly blow back on Trump with a lot of voters. 
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People just take what is fed to them without actually doing their own research.  Look at the whole mask issue.  It is such a farce, but people blindly follow, wearing them alone in their car or out walking in nature. 

Look up plandemic movie if you want to see another side to Fauci.  I know this will queue the rabid response hounds, but at least listen to some dissent and make up your own mind.
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Quote: @greediron said:
People just take what is fed to them without actually doing their own research.  Look at the whole mask issue.  It is such a farce, but people blindly follow, wearing them alone in their car or out walking in nature. 

Look up plandemic movie if you want to see another side to Fauci.  I know this will queue the rabid response hounds, but at least listen to some dissent and make up your own mind.
the sad part is that once again its an all or none thing.  if you question anything then you are the crazy selfish person out to kill everybody and get lumped in with those that are running around with long guns strapped to their backs to show how patriotic they are... this virus is no Fn joke and is not the hoax that the crazies want to try and say it is... I grew up in meat packing towns and they never had the flu rip through them like this thing does and there were a lot more precautions taken with this than there was ever taken in the past.  the virus isnt a hoax,  but some of the dumb ass restrictions that I have heard about are definitely on the line of insane.   I know of a 1 man print shop that does a lot of his business online and he wasnt able to go to his shop by himself and fill orders... how Fn stupid.   all the comments about how menards is somehow a essentail service supplier to the public,  but other similar businesses arent... the more that I run through who can and cant be open it becomes more and more evident that this is being used to make some people money by taking out the competition.

EDIT:  and going into a business and arresting the owner for non compliance... if they are willing to take the risk and their customers are willing to take the risk..... at some point we need to get out of the way,  especially in states that released prisoners for health reasons and then arrested others... dumb!  my favorite is the picture of cops without masks arresting people for not complying with the safety mandates.... thats are really good marker of where we are right now with the idiocy.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@greediron said:
People just take what is fed to them without actually doing their own research.  Look at the whole mask issue.  It is such a farce, but people blindly follow, wearing them alone in their car or out walking in nature. 

Look up plandemic movie if you want to see another side to Fauci.  I know this will queue the rabid response hounds, but at least listen to some dissent and make up your own mind.
the sad part is that once again its an all or none thing.  if you question anything then you are the crazy selfish person out to kill everybody and get lumped in with those that are running around with long guns strapped to their backs to show how patriotic they are... this virus is no Fn joke and is not the hoax that the crazies want to try and say it is... I grew up in meat packing towns and they never had the flu rip through them like this thing does and there were a lot more precautions taken with this than there was ever taken in the past.  the virus isnt a hoax,  but some of the dumb ass restrictions that I have heard about are definitely on the line of insane.   I know of a 1 man print shop that does a lot of his business online and he wasnt able to go to his shop by himself and fill orders... how Fn stupid.   all the comments about how menards is somehow a essentail service supplier to the public,  but other similar businesses arent... the more that I run through who can and cant be open it becomes more and more evident that this is being used to make some people money by taking out the competition.

again, follow the money. Look at the businesses that are "essential."   Then ask how much  lobbying power is behind those corporations.  We are allowing the government to kill small businesses.  The backbone of our freedom, the companies that give us the middle class and disposable income that keeps us free.  And never mind the blatant attacks on the freedom of religion by some draconian governors. 

Yes the virus is real, but so is our immune system.  When we isolate, avoid sunshine, increase stress, eat crap and drink alcohol, guess what is weakened?  This virus is highly contagious, but not near as fatal as the fear mongers pushed.  Protecting the vulnerable makes sense, as it always does.  Life is precious.  But killing others through bankruptcy, suicide and high stress is not the way to protect life.
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Quote: @greediron said:
follow the money.  He is in deep with Gates and required vaccines.  He has been a key cog in DC for a long time.
So an internet conspiracy theory destroys the trust in institutions such as the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.  Unreal.  We deserve what is coming to us.

He has been a key cog in DC for a long time because he is non partisan and known as one of the best minds on the planet regarding studies in this space.  He is a trusted individual.  Trusted by Reagan, Bush, W, Obama, and Clinton.  He was a key mind in the HIV/AIDS epidemic, and has a track record that is beyond impressive. 

Yes, let’s throw that out the window because the president doesn’t like him upstaging him and that internet warriors love to throw more fuel on the fire.  The same circlejerk of voices who also believe in Flat Earth, 5G Coronavirus, and Chemtrails

We can question our institutions, we can push back on institutions, but to discredit them over internet memes is disgusting.  Reuters (a long bastion of fake news) has debunked Fauci - Gates engagement regarding board positions, but fuck Reuters, what do they know
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Quote: @Skodin said:
@greediron said:
follow the money.  He is in deep with Gates and required vaccines.  He has been a key cog in DC for a long time.
So an internet conspiracy theory destroys the trust in institutions such as the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.  Unreal.  We deserve what is coming to us.

He has been a key cog in DC for a long time because he is non partisan and known as one of the best minds on the planet regarding studies in this space.  He is a trusted individual.  Trusted by Reagan, Bush, W, Obama, and Clinton.  He was a key mind in the HIV/AIDS epidemic, and has a track record that is beyond impressive. 

Yes, let’s throw that out the window because the president doesn’t like him upstaging him and that internet warriors love to throw more fuel on the fire.  The same circlejerk of voices who also believe in Flat Earth, 5G Coronavirus, and Chemtrails

We can question our institutions, we can push back on institutions, but to discredit them over internet memes is disgusting.  Reuters (a long bastion of fake news) has debunked Fauci - Gates engagement regarding board positions, but fuck Reuters, what do they know
see,  you are part of the problem,   because somebody questions this shit you lump them in with flat earthers... its responses like that are the reason people get to their boiling points and wont listen to counter arguments with an open mind.

why is it wrong to question Fauci,   anybody thats been in DC that long has made some serious friends and those friendships should be questioned.   if you want to blindly follow that is your prerogative,  but it doesnt make those that dont follow you crazies.


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#9
He's a scientist, just because what he says alarms you doesn't mean it shouldn't.  Conformation Bias is one of the biggest tools that is being used to erode political and social discourse.  You can criticize him personally, that's fine, but unless you truly have an understanding of scientific method you have little to stand on other than opinion to criticize his conclusions.  Civil servants are there to insulate the institutions from biases that you fear. 
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#10
he is now in gates pocket probaly not always the case
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