More Dysfunction In Cleveland

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@mjollnir_k said:

@FSUVike said:

@JR44 said:

@"BarrNone55" said:
So does this:

PAUL DEPODESTAG, CLEVELAND BROWNS
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Browns "chief strategy officer" Paul DePodesta is in charge of hiring the team's new coach.DePodesta will not get a title change in the hierarchy of the Browns' front office, but he's serving as the active GM at the moment and could even possibly take over the role moving forward depending on how things shake out. DePodesta is essentially a throwback to the Sashi Brown era after he survived the Brown ouster and now the John Dorsey debacle. DePodesta's background is in baseball with an analytical view.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Weird thing is that DePostesta is a baseball guy, he was one of the guys that made analytics popular and was played by Jonah Hill in Moneyball.  Browns are an organization that just go from one head scratcher move to another.  Not sure how anyone thought it was a good idea to draft Mayfield number one.  

He was also the guy leading the contingent that pushed to hire Stefanski instead of Kitchens. Could he tempt Kevin by letting him bring Paton with him to be the GM? Reports are that Cleveland wants to make sure their next HC has a good working relationship with the next GM and they want to find the Coach first. 

Exactly what has Stephanski done to warrant HC consideration, or more to the point us worrying about replacing him?

It's more of the young creative mind narrative. It is interesting to see how many Browns fans are intrigued by Stefanski. 

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URBAN MEYERC, UNSIGNED FREE AGENT
Fox Sports' Bruce Feldman reports the Browns have "strong interest" in former Ohio State coach Urban Meyer.Meyer's name has been floated around for multiple jobs ever since he stepped down from his gig at Ohio State following the 2018 season. Of course, the Browns are also being linked to pretty much every available head coach at the moment. There's been no indication that Meyer shares this interest, although Mark Maske from The Washington Post reports, "One person who has spoken to Urban Meyer in recent weeks says that Meyer now has 'that itch' to return to coaching."
SOURCE: Bruce Feldman on Twitter

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@Vikergirl said:

@StickyBun said:
Crazy how the media bought into the preseason hype on this team. Cover of SI, the return of the Browns, some even picked them to go to the Superbowl, lol. 

Did they really though? I felt like they pushed that narrative to tear them down. They get more clicks and hits that way. Paper champions. They bought into the hype. 

IMO I don't see any motive to tear down - it's just that the media has become totally tuned to viewers who have no long-term memory or interest in any perspective beyond the immediate, so a team that goes 5-3 over the last half of 2018 and trades for a receiver whose highlight clips exceed his production becomes their darling.

Another example is Patrick Mahomes. Does Mahomes deserve to be lauded for his 2018 season and described as a highly promising talent? Definitely - but that wasn't the storyline from the media: all through last offseason and early 2019, I heard many discussions of whether Mahomes was the greatest NFL QB of all time. And most of the conversations featured people saying, "Definitely!!" - even people who have reported on the NFL for decades. They can't be saying those things with a straight face, but their viewers want that idea that they are personally living in a period of "the greatest". So it also appeals to that crowd to think they live in some new era where the Browns are champions.
 

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@Jor-El said:

@Vikergirl said:

@StickyBun said:
Crazy how the media bought into the preseason hype on this team. Cover of SI, the return of the Browns, some even picked them to go to the Superbowl, lol. 

Did they really though? I felt like they pushed that narrative to tear them down. They get more clicks and hits that way. Paper champions. They bought into the hype. 

IMO I don't see any motive to tear down - it's just that the media has become totally tuned to viewers who have no long-term memory or interest in any perspective beyond the immediate, so a team that goes 5-3 over the last half of 2018 and trades for a receiver whose highlight clips exceed his production becomes their darling.

Another example is Patrick Mahomes. Does Mahomes deserve to be lauded for his 2018 season and described as a highly promising talent? Definitely - but that wasn't the storyline from the media: all through last offseason and early 2019, I heard many discussions of whether Mahomes was the greatest NFL QB of all time. And most of the conversations featured people saying, "Definitely!!" - even people who have reported on the NFL for decades. They can't be saying those things with a straight face, but their viewers want that idea that they are personally living in a period of "the greatest". So it also appeals to that crowd to think they live in some new era where the Browns are champions.
 

nothing exceeds like excess.  Hype is the easiest thing to sell, well right after tragedy, but this is sports, so hype is much more prevalent.