He didn't really need to speak --- just showing up in his selection of attire was going for a reaction and not in a "I want to get back to work sort of way." So back to my original comment, "no common sense and average ability doesn't endear him a second chance."
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He didn't really need to speak --- just showing up in his selection of attire was going for a reaction and not in a "I want to get back to work sort of way." So back to my original comment, "no common sense and average ability doesn't endear him a second chance."
There we go, moving the goalpost again. The discussion was on him being mouthy and saying boastful things. What he actually says gets posted, its not mouth or boastful. And now its not so much that he is mouthy but his actions are boastful.
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He's no Lamar Jackson.
I was a CK fan when he destroyed GB with his legs in The Playoffs.
That guy is long gone.
And the weird politics, disagreements, PC stuff, and mouthy boasting after 60 throws at his workout are EXACTLY why He isn't gonna ever take another live snap in The NFL.
Red Flags all over the place and he's the one throwing them up by all appearances.
Missed the mouthy boasting post workout. What did he say?
I heard him talking to press about how teams can't run from the truth after seeing his workout. It was kinda lame. I was left with the impression he was either insecure about his talent, or not really serious about doing whatever it took to get on a roster.
Here is the exact quote. Not really the mouthy boasting alluded to by another poster.
“ I’ve been ready for three years,” Kaepernick said. “I’ve been denied for three years. We all know why. I came out here and showed it today in front of everybody. We have nothing to hide. So we’re waiting for the 32 owners, the 32 teams, Roger Goodell, a ll of them to stop running — stop running from the truth, stop running from the people.”
Not sure what you would call it then. Definitely boastful, arrogant, delusional.
This is what happens when people have such a strong dislike for someone/something.
"I've been ready for three years".
Which reaction of yours does this check off? You prefer he say he's been sitting around for 3 years not caring?
"I came out here today and showed it in front of everybody."
Really obnoxious of him. So your basic canned cliche sports response every player uses? That gets you worked up? Good lord if being boastful gets you lathered up, and you call this boastful make sure to skip any and all future sports post game interviews.
"all of them to stop running, stop running from the truth, stop running from the people. "
You understand when he says the "truth" he's talking about being black balled right? Not the truth as in he's some all world QB. Even people who are against this guy pretty much universally agree, and gloat about him being black balled. Now if you dont think the shit show around this guy is what has kept him out of the league we can stop there.
I'll begin by saying I think Kaep is pretty overrated by the "let him play" crowd. And personally, I think he's kind of an ass, so defending him doesn't come easily. (I remember years ago when he posted his Instagram picture of his shoe closet that was bigger than my bedroom. What a boob.) And I don't think his cause - kneeling in protest of police brutality - does any good. It divides us further. It doesn't elicit an epiphany in the people he's trying to get attention from, it just incites more anger.
Having said all that, I genuinely believe he wants to play, that he's more than capable of being one of the better backups in the league, and possibly starting for a small number of teams. He was benched for his play, but he's being black balled because the NFL has a political problem. They've intertwined themselves with pro-military values. And not to speak against the military members themselves... I'd never do that. They're talking to the blind allegiance crowd.
I don't mind disliking Kaepernick, but more than anything I can't stand bullshit arguments. And the people campaigning the hardest against the guy are being extremely dishonest.
Eloquently stated. I agree with everything you said
I also think the best solution would be for the NFL to get rid of the national anthem. Institute it if we are in a major war, or for games on holidays, or special events.
And stop flying fighter jets over stadiums.
And Kaep can get the NFL, teams, and players to donate to some charity set up to handle the crime problem in inner cities, the relationship between minorities and police, homelessness ... whatever. Fans at stadiums could donate as well. And hit up the major networks and providers to add a small percentage to their payment - to go into the charity. You know - come up with solutions and fix problems. Not create division and not solve the problems while personally benefitting.
I don't get the hatred for this guy. I'm old so I generally support young people doing their thing so long as it is not illegal. I see no reason not to support CK. This guy risked an NFL QB career to bring attention to other people at risk. He was not at risk. Others were. Whether you agree with him or not, I think that's noble. Shows character. (Hence the Nike and other endorsement deals.)
Lots of people do not like how another conducts his protest. The communist Chinese government does not like the Hong Kong protests. CK was not only not breaking the law, what he did is entirely protected under the Constitution. The negative reaction seems purely emotional/irrational, not the product of thoughtful reflection.
The NFL is a business and may have decided he was bad for business. But the owners/teams may have colluded (illegally) in keeping him out of the league. He sued. They would like him to trade a dog and pony show workout in exchange for a release of all his claims against the league. He said no - I would have counseled him to reject it, too. Now for that he gets more criticism? Whatever.
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I also think the best solution would be for the NFL to get rid of the national anthem. Institute it if we are in a major war, or for games on holidays, or special events.
And stop flying fighter jets over stadiums.
And Kaep can get the NFL, teams, and players to donate to some charity set up to handle the crime problem in inner cities, the relationship between minorities and police, homelessness ... whatever. Fans at stadiums could donate as well. And hit up the major networks and providers to add a small percentage to their payment - to go into the charity. You know - come up with solutions and fix problems. Not create division and not solve the problems while personally benefitting.
Have you hit your head? I agree with everything you said.
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@ A1Janitor said:
I also think the best solution would be for the NFL to get rid of the national anthem. Institute it if we are in a major war, or for games on holidays, or special events.
And stop flying fighter jets over stadiums.
And Kaep can get the NFL, teams, and players to donate to some charity set up to handle the crime problem in inner cities, the relationship between minorities and police, homelessness ... whatever. Fans at stadiums could donate as well. And hit up the major networks and providers to add a small percentage to their payment - to go into the charity. You know - come up with solutions and fix problems. Not create division and not solve the problems while personally benefitting.
Have you hit your head? I agree with everything you said.
No.
We finally found a topic you understand. If you put the effort to review the evidence in other discussions, you’d agree with me there too. When your TDS goes into remission, you become a little smarter! 
I disagreed with your earlier Kaep post slightly, didn’t want to respond ... because it is an honest take.
Over in the XFL, those in attendance will be asked to rise for Stone Cold Steve Austin's entrance theme instead.
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@ KingBash said:
@ A1Janitor said:
I also think the best solution would be for the NFL to get rid of the national anthem. Institute it if we are in a major war, or for games on holidays, or special events.
And stop flying fighter jets over stadiums.
And Kaep can get the NFL, teams, and players to donate to some charity set up to handle the crime problem in inner cities, the relationship between minorities and police, homelessness ... whatever. Fans at stadiums could donate as well. And hit up the major networks and providers to add a small percentage to their payment - to go into the charity. You know - come up with solutions and fix problems. Not create division and not solve the problems while personally benefitting.
Have you hit your head? I agree with everything you said.
No.
We finally found a topic you understand. If you put the effort to review the evidence in other discussions, you’d agree with me there too. When your TDS goes into remission, you become a little smarter!
I disagreed with your earlier Kaep post slightly, didn’t want to respond ... because it is an honest take.
That's the delusional garbage I'm used to!
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I don't get the hatred for this guy. I'm old so I generally support young people doing their thing so long as it is not illegal. I see no reason not to support CK. This guy risked an NFL QB career to bring attention to other people at risk. He was not at risk. Others were. Whether you agree with him or not, I think that's noble. Shows character. (Hence the Nike and other endorsement deals.)
Lots of people do not like how another conducts his protest. The communist Chinese government does not like the Hong Kong protests. CK was not only not breaking the law, what he did is entirely protected under the Constitution. The negative reaction seems purely emotional/irrational, not the product of thoughtful reflection.
The NFL is a business and may have decided he was bad for business. But the owners/teams may have colluded (illegally) in keeping him out of the league. He sued. They would like him to trade a dog and pony show workout in exchange for a release of all his claims against the league. He said no - I would have counseled him to reject it, too. Now for that he gets more criticism? Whatever.
The waiver was for any iinjuries he may have gotten during the workout. It wasnt a wipe the slate clean waiver.
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